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Posted on: November 18, 2019 at 07:36:37 CT

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Has anyone who has watched this year's team bothered to see if they play hard defense? The answer is 'yes'. It isn't pretty to watch but it's largely the formula Virginia and Wisconsin has used for success. Give him some time.

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Why are we cutting HCCM so much slack? - Deputy Dawg MU - 11/18 05:38:22

We signed 2-3 elite players. (nm) - mizzou john MU

- 11/18 13:27:19

Oh shucks, is that all - just signing 2-3 elite players - raskolnikov MU - 11/18 11:36:46

Come on man, Cuonzo is - FIJItiger MU

- 11/18 11:35:58

I think you missed year 1. Probably missed the huge injuries - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 11:29:18

I think the are both doing a good job(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU

- 11/18 11:26:45

Are we really starting this again? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 11/18 11:15:00

Conference affiliation is a factor - difficult to recruit at - alstl MU - 11/18 11:11:40

because he's a good coach - LamarFrazier MU - 11/18 09:35:21

And it may just be coach speak, but he appears to want to - Domino MU

- 11/18 09:37:31

what's our o pace been under him? - LamarFrazier MU - 11/18 13:25:56

Team doesn't get easy fast break pts so pressure - Sigma MU - 11/18 09:55:31

I think there are plenty of opportunity to get quick scores - Legendary50 UT - 11/18 10:00:49

Pinson looks like the only one with the speed and ability to - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 10:03:18

And once McKinney polishes his game up, we'll have another(nm) - Domino MU

- 11/18 10:13:27

RE: Pinson looks like the only one with the speed and ability to - Legendary50 UT - 11/18 10:07:59

The dunk has nothing to do with it. He routinely finishes - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 10:12:22

Cuonzo said Mizzou missed 13 layups against Xavier - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 10:51:00

Tray Jackson missed a 1 footer with no one guarding him(nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 10:54:13

That was the game (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 11/18 10:58:55

We have pushed the pace in CM's first 2 years also - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 09:53:38

Mizzou will never be a high pace team under Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 09:47:26

slowest pace offense at MU ever - LamarFrazier MU - 11/18 13:25:09

A defensive minded guy like Martin is not one to go fast for - alwaysright MU - 11/18 10:43:55

Most of the best P6 teams don’t really play that fast - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 10:52:47

UNC is one of the fastest teams in the NCAA yearly (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 10:55:56

I looked over the top 25 KenPom teams last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 11:52:55

This is true, but there are good teams that pick - alwaysright MU - 11/18 10:53:55

I agree but I do think there will be plenty of opportunities - Legendary50 UT - 11/18 09:56:00

Dru went for 22 because he had to to give the team - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 09:59:27

That is not what I'm saying........ - Legendary50 UT - 11/18 10:05:38

I give CM a little more slack because he took over for the - jrmtiger MU - 11/18 09:27:46

If anything, Martin's strong suit is coaching - Domino MU

- 11/18 09:32:13

Yea about half his recruits at Cal, Tennessee and Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 09:35:39

Football sucks. I know, let’s rip on ALL PROGRAMS!!! - tiger4real MU - 11/18 08:27:07

wtf are you talking about. Slack?(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 11/18 08:22:27

2 yrs,1 bid. Go back to football board to unload - Sigma MU - 11/18 08:20:12

He has made the tournament 50% of the time. If he makes - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 08:14:09

This is only his third year - 615Tiger STL - 11/18 07:59:58

2nd year was worse than his first year... - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 08:20:40

And after JP got hurt, it was completely expected (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 08:22:33

and also, I would say that isn't true. Last year in January - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 09:09:29

Wait, so your argument is that we had 3 huge injuries but - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 11:32:13

Correct. Results fall on the coach.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 12:24:27

To clarify: Cuonzo is responsible for their injuries?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 13:07:09

He is responsible for Wins and Losses.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 13:38:42

Being responsible for something does not preclude mitigating - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 14:02:07

what argument am I presenting? This should be good.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 14:30:58

True, you never really come out and say. Should we consider - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 15:22:48

doesn't make it OK.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 09:07:40

Why not? Why should a huge injury completely outside his - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 11:30:57

JP didn't prevent this team from being a tournament team.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 12:24:48

Per you, not just JP, MS & JP injuries all did. - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 13:06:20

No. They didin't prevent it. It was a tournament team - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 13:39:32

No one should've had the expectation that was a tournament - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 14:07:56

You sure seem upset that Cuonzo is responsible for the team' - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 14:30:39

I've never said he isn't. I'm simply accounting for context. - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/18 15:20:09

Gets a pass from me. (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 11/18 09:13:36

He needs to produce some results this year as it is year 3 - SuperTone MU

- 11/18 07:02:24

This is the correct take on the matter. - alwaysright MU - 11/18 08:13:16

He's doing just fine because - Newcatbirdseat MU - 11/18 06:58:38

He did recruit a couple of those guys and then they got hurt - alwaysright MU - 11/18 06:50:34

Recruiting to a 1/3 filled arena? - Genco98 MU - 11/18 06:39:03

Has anybody asked Coach Martin if that's an issue? - Genco98 MU - 11/18 09:08:57

I’m sure it is - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/18 09:22:00

I've watched every SEC team play this season and???? - Legendary50 UT - 11/18 09:44:23

That's not an issue. - alwaysright MU - 11/18 06:49:40

RE: Why are we cutting HCCM so much slack? - TBrown MU - 11/18 06:28:07

Was Virginia cutting Tony Bennett too much slack? - Domino MU

- 11/18 06:15:54

+1000 - chuckaluck MU - 11/18 07:36:37