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Agreed, only opens up a spot in the rotation...

Posted on: December 5, 2018 at 16:31:42 CT

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Not a huge fan of Weaver's mental makeup. Good stuff but I'm not sure he knows how to pitch well enough to ever hit his ceiling. Change of pace might be good.

Kelly was drafted to be Yadi's successor but Yadi decided to stay in shape year round and while he may have lost a step defensively, he's a much better hitter than he was and a huge part of the chemistry that makes this clubhouse work.

Kelly deserves a chance. But man, really good catchers are one in a million. We already have one.

Don't know much about Young.

Love this deal.

Edited by Gyro at 16:33:06 on 12/05/18

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Derrick Goold says Cards are closing deal on Goldschmidt - KCT-BoneTiger MU

- 12/5 16:06:39

Now that is a great deal. Didn't give up much(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 12/5 18:59:58

Ever drink Goldschlager? Had those flecks of gold in it. - HandBanana MU - 12/5 17:03:07

**** was huge back in the day... - Gyro MU - 12/5 17:07:03

Rumpleminz, Ice 101, I remember all those types of - HandBanana MU - 12/5 17:21:59

Could be a repeat of Heyward - I wonder what they are - alstl MU - 12/5 16:48:16

Wow - thats a steal - GoMizzouTigers MU - 12/5 16:25:12

Weaver and Carson are both major leaguers - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 12/5 16:53:17

Weaver pitched in the major leagues. Poorly. Not one - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:25:38

Agreed, only opens up a spot in the rotation... - Gyro MU - 12/5 16:31:42

I really really really hope they can sign Goldschmidt and - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:33:17

I can pretty much guarantee they will let at least one walk - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 12/5 16:54:37

Well the great thing about this deal... - Gyro MU - 12/5 16:34:51

Cards like to pocket a lot of that $$ they have plenty to - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 12/5 16:55:17

No they won't but that's the thing... - Gyro MU - 12/5 17:06:22

Its not about the position, its about a generational - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 12/5 17:13:09

The Cardinals don't need a draw... - Gyro MU - 12/5 19:11:45

I see O'Neill as more of an American League... - Gyro MU - 12/5 17:22:50

I agree he's an all or nothing guy and likely continues - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 12/5 17:24:56

I'm honestly more interested... - Gyro MU - 12/5 19:06:28

Ozuna? I figured Goldschmidt at 3 and Ozuna at 4(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:37:09

I see him as more of a three... - Gyro MU - 12/5 17:04:51

Goldschmidt will hit 3rd (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 17:36:35

Weaver is a space cadet and Kelly hasn't shown he can hit - Macgrantt MU - 12/5 16:24:46

Great deal. Weaver and Kelly had questionable futures in STL - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:18:08

Awesome trade! - Uncle John MU

- 12/5 16:22:08

Weaver looks like a 4th or 5th in your rotation guy. I can't - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:24:35

I think that is Luke's ceiling as a starter and yeah, wow(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:26:50

He's capable of being really good - Mormad MU - 12/5 16:38:53

I've seen enough of him by now to know what I need to know - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:40:00

I'm not sad about losing him - Mormad MU - 12/5 16:47:57

Kelly isn't going to hit at the big league level. He looked - Floyd Turbo 99 - 12/5 16:20:43

Knizner is already better anyway(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:27:22

Yep, Kelly needed to be moved. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:27:42

It benefits him and STL(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:28:20

Would this be considered "The Cardinal Way"? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 12/5 16:13:23

Pretty sure he's white, yeah (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 12/5 16:15:15

Luke Weaver and Carson Kelly gone. Andrew Young too (nm) - KCT-BoneTiger MU

- 12/5 16:11:24

All that for one year with Goldschmidt? - kmawv8 MU - 12/5 16:16:35

Lol, - Uncle John MU

- 12/5 16:24:36

Lol, no. Cards got a steal (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:23:24

Dbacks were going to get nothing for him - kmawv8 MU - 12/5 16:24:44

I don't think they got a lot more than that just now. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:25:09

Disagree, Cards didn't believe in Weaver and Kelly is gonna - tsutiger57 MU - 12/5 16:18:49

Probably more a case of Knizner being the heir to Yadi's - tigerdb MU - 12/5 16:25:24

Yep(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:28:00

Weaver is completely expendable. Agreed. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:26:28

He's 25 and pitched in 30 games last year - kmawv8 MU - 12/5 16:21:28

Cards might have made the playoffs if they had sent someone - tigerdb MU - 12/5 16:31:42

I think Weaver profiles better as a reliever personally(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/5 16:35:31

If the Cards want him to stick around they will - Uncle John MU

- 12/5 16:26:15

Not if they extend him. This deal can't be judged - MU_gz MU

- 12/5 16:22:40

Done Deal. Bye Weaver (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:11:11

Thank God. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 12/5 16:27:33

i think the deal is done. Hope it works out(nm) - Doc Stone MU

- 12/5 16:09:25

The pitchforks are really going to come out if they don't - TheWildcat STL - 12/5 16:08:18

Depends on how he plays. If he's good he won't get - Uncle John MU

- 12/5 16:23:59

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