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RE: Define human liberty. Does it mean anarchy, where people

Posted on: June 4, 2018 at 11:52:02 CT
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Define human liberty.

Human beings exercising their rights to their life, liberty, and property without categorical and unwilling infringements by other human beings.

Does it mean anarchy, where people are free from all rules of law?

Anarchy doesn't even mean that. Anarchy means without a leader or ruler, but presumes that there would be rules created by privately made contracts/agreements.

So, no.

Total freedom, total liberty. No constraints, no rules, no laws...?

Again no. The rules are generated by contracts and enforced via private property rights.

I say yes, it goes too far.

I would agree that your sensational strawman goes too far.

You know ummm, as a disciple of the dull pickle, you feel some perverted sense of loyalty to be on his side, virtually always. But, how an i say this nicely....the pickle is, not smart.

Following him or even believing him diminishes you. You occasionally post substantive stuff. But never as i recall, when echoing the dull one.

I am not a disciple of pickle, and I have my own divergences from his stances. However, I appreciate pickle and anarchocapitalism because it is aimed in the absolute right direction.
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hi, i'm pickle. I'm an anarchist, a lover of liberty...AMA! - pickle MU - 6/4 11:02:55
     Where ya been these last few weeks? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/4 12:47:44
          RE: Where ya been these last few weeks? - pickle MU - 6/4 13:00:38
               cool (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/4 13:03:50
     Meds - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/4 12:00:23
          I could stand to take some allergy medicine - pickle MU - 6/4 12:05:04
     Your fear of having your hypocrisy pointed out again is - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:32:03
          You've seen the answer. You just willfully ignore it.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 11:40:01
               I have not seen any logical answer, but if you want to - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:41:01
                    You have. You just lack logic.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 11:41:54
                         If you believe you can support a logical answer, this is a - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:44:44
                              As I said. It has been done countless times. You just - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 12:01:14
                                   BS. There is no logical way to reconcile the two positions - JeffB MU - 6/4 12:07:33
                                        NAP applies to people, not a lump of tissue.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 12:11:35
                                             Oh, so you try and reconcile the absurdity by pretending - JeffB MU - 6/4 12:23:19
                                                  why do you lean so heavily on "scientific fact" (which - 90Tiger MU - 6/4 12:27:48
                                                       Pretty much all 'scientific fact' is a 'consensus opinion'. - JeffB MU - 6/4 13:02:28
                                                            You are mixing up terms. Human tissue and human being. - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 13:06:38
                                                                 Yes, EXACTLY. Read what the unanimous testimony of the top - JeffB MU - 6/4 13:33:52
                                                                      "unanimous testimony" - 90Tiger MU - 6/4 14:07:13
                                                                           Can you name some scientific facts that are not - JeffB MU - 6/4 14:18:06
     If we are all sovereign, - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:27:31
          No (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:31:21
               But what about that childs natural right to live? - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:35:20
                    You asked if they "have to" - pickle MU - 6/4 11:43:26
                         Ok, I understand that point, but I have a follow on - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:45:56
                              Nothing (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:52:54
                                   So then it's ok to kill someone you produced and - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:56:32
                                        No, I don't think that's ok at all. - pickle MU - 6/4 12:03:53
                                             What would be a better word for actively letting someone - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:09:02
                                                  Lack of action is not action. - pickle MU - 6/4 12:11:32
                                                       Doing nothing IS doing something. - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:16:03
                                                            "Who is supposed to protect them" - pickle MU - 6/4 12:19:34
                                                                 SO then No one has rights then?(nm) - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:23:56
                                                                      That doesn't logically follow - pickle MU - 6/4 12:33:21
                                        "Moral responsibility". Who dictates what is moral and then - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 12:03:26
                                             So because you think deciding whether or not something is - JeffB MU - 6/4 12:12:37
                                                  More irrational thought from you.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 6/4 12:41:10
                                                       No, more dodging of questions from you. No following - JeffB MU - 6/4 13:04:42
                              In a perfect world, others would be charitable enough - Mormad MU - 6/4 11:48:51
               But society doesn't have to, either, right? - Mormad MU - 6/4 11:34:39
     I believe mankind is inherently good and cooperative - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/4 11:18:15
          Great question. (nm) - Badird MU - 6/4 11:18:37
               I didn't see a question mark. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:24:04
                    Why can't you ever read a question? - Mormad MU - 6/4 11:29:40
     Why do you, hypocritically, not consider polllution as - JG MU - 6/4 11:11:39
          RE: Why do you, hypocritically, not consider polllution as - Badird MU - 6/4 11:23:24
          On the face of it, it isn't aggression - pickle MU - 6/4 11:15:50
               The deliberate destruction of the planet is - MrBlueSky MU - 6/4 11:36:56
                    How is pollution destroying the planet? - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:39:50
                    So why havent you stopped driving yet? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 6/4 11:39:20
                    Who is deliberately destroying the planet? Please provide - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:39:08
                         I spit my gum out the window as I was driving back - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/4 11:46:10
                              On the other hand, how do we know for sure that that piece - JeffB MU - 6/4 11:47:23
                                   That's deep (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/4 13:23:20
                              Why do you insist on destroying the planet?(nm) - Mormad MU - 6/4 11:46:55
               Answer the question - JG MU - 6/4 11:16:46
                    I just did: pollution in and of itself is not aggression - pickle MU - 6/4 11:26:55
                         RE: I just did: pollution in and of itself is not aggression - JG MU - 6/4 11:43:08
                              Congrats on your retirement - pickle MU - 6/4 11:44:39
     Pickle, if a person alleged to have beliefs that govt should - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:06:34
          Well of course I'm not going to use the word "should" - pickle MU - 6/4 11:12:19
          Maybe it's a question of degree for that person - Mormad MU - 6/4 11:09:10
               Yup. The dull pickles and his followers like most - hokie VT - 6/4 11:19:34
                    The irony here is off the charts (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:30:12
               This board suggests otherwise. - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:18:30
                    So it's not possible to ever go "too far," is that right? nm - hokie VT - 6/4 11:24:31
                         In advocating for human liberty? - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:39:58
                              Define human liberty. Does it mean anarchy, where people - hokie VT - 6/4 11:44:56
                                   that isn't what anarchy is (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/4 12:32:41
                                   RE: Define human liberty. Does it mean anarchy, where people - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:52:02
                                   That's not what anarchy is (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:46:48
                              Whoa! - pickle MU - 6/4 11:43:53
               They are antagonistic to a reduced role - pickle MU - 6/4 11:14:11
     can you define the capital "C" church for me?(nm) - cnk ATL - 6/4 11:05:52
          Sure. It is all churches/religious organizations - pickle MU - 6/4 11:10:45
               ok, thanks. follow up question - cnk ATL - 6/4 11:12:34
                    Imaginary friend clubs should not get tax advantages. - Rabbit Test MU - 6/4 11:16:26
                         The simpler solution would be to stop legalized mass theft - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:17:32
                              If it's legalized, is it really theft?* - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:43:49
                                   Yes. But you can call it state-sanctioned theft if that - ummmm MU - 6/4 11:53:34
                                        I thank that is a better way of saying it evan though - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:05:54
                                   Yes - pickle MU - 6/4 11:47:14
                                        But who decides that ?(nm) - tcat UMKC - 6/4 11:50:51
                                             Who decides what? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:53:26
                                                  If the "law" is force - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:01:16
                                                       The individual decides that - pickle MU - 6/4 12:06:21
                                                            What happens when two individuals disagree - tcat UMKC - 6/4 12:22:49
                                                                 I don't know what happens. - pickle MU - 6/4 12:34:39
                    I support that completely (nm) - pickle MU - 6/4 11:16:21
                         then why destroy the Church? - cnk ATL - 6/4 11:18:18
                              That's a good question - pickle MU - 6/4 11:37:03
                                   I think I follow(nm) - cnk ATL - 6/4 11:46:35




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