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RE: No, but campaigns that colluded with Russia and

Posted on: May 23, 2018 at 18:54:42 CT
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Carter Page and Paul Manafort joined the Trump campaign in early spring, and the FBI was concerned about their possible ties to Russia. These were not trifling concerns, but they did not come close to suggesting a Trump-Russia espionage conspiracy against the 2016 election.

These FBI concerns resulted in a briefing of the Obama NSC by the FBI sometime in “late spring.” I suspect the “late spring” may turn out to be an earlier part of spring than most people might suppose — like maybe shortly after Page joined the Trump campaign.

There are many different ways the Obama administration could have reacted to the news that Page and Manafort had joined the Trump campaign. It could have given the campaign a defensive briefing. It could have continued interviewing Page, with whom the FBI had longstanding lines of communication. It could have interviewed Manafort. It could have conducted a formal interview with George Papadopoulos rather than approaching him with a spy who asked him loaded questions about Russia’s possession of Democratic-party emails.

Instead of doing some or all of those things, the Obama administration chose to look at the Trump campaign as a likely co-conspirator of Russia — either because Obama officials inflated the flimsy evidence, or because they thought it could be an effective political attack on the opposition party’s likely candidate.

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From the “late spring” on, every report of Trump-Russia ties, no matter how unlikely and uncorroborated, was presumed to be proof of a traitorous arrangement. And every detail that could be spun into Trump-campaign awareness of Russian hacking, no matter how tenuous, was viewed in the worst possible light.

The Trump-Russia investigation did not originate with Page or Papadopoulos. It originated with the Obama administration.
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     You ask the wrong question, again. Is it true?, is the right - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/23 20:35:23
     John Kenneth Galbreath (sp?) - 1960’s - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 5/23 20:15:22
     what exactly do you think the deep state is? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/23 20:05:56
          he makes up some absurd notion, calls it silly and wonders - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 20:35:45
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          RE: Its Real, 90% of those guys vote Democrat - raskolnikov MU - 5/23 20:00:45
     RE: The whole “Deep State” narrative.... has a sitting - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 19:45:26
     My definition of the "deep state" is... - limenats MU - 5/23 19:27:25
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               Coming from you, I take that as a compliment. - limenats MU - 5/23 19:41:22
                    So Trump invented the deep state or it began in 2017 as - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 19:42:56
                         I think Federal employees have always taken their jobs - limenats MU - 5/23 19:44:49
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                                   What do you think the "deep state" is? - limenats MU - 5/23 20:03:25
                                        Why? If I ask you what you think pizza is do you nee - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 20:09:25
                                             Thank you. - limenats MU - 5/23 20:13:14
                                                  stop thinking in absolutes. this isn't some "you're in or yo - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 20:30:14
                                                       I enjoyed reading that. Thanks. That gives me a bit - limenats MU - 5/23 20:43:52
                                                            I have distrusted the gubmit long before trump had any - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 20:47:17
                                                                 Yes, of course. - limenats MU - 5/23 20:54:44
                                                                      now because I distrust the gvmt i'm a racist, nationalist, - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 21:51:08
                                                            i don't care what you think about Trump, this response - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 20:46:24
                                                                 Fair enough. - limenats MU - 5/23 20:56:04
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          lol right - FootballRefugee MU - 5/23 19:29:18
     Yes - TGR84 MU - 5/23 19:27:20
     While I believe “deep state” is real and has certainly - recruiter MU - 5/23 19:25:44
     I think by simply analyzing the responses here - TheShoe STL - 5/23 19:22:47
          silly - the notion of the deep state didn't begin with Donal - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 19:33:51
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     if You don’t think there are career bureaucrats who control - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/23 19:00:36
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     what makes you so sure there is no such entity as a - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:22:10
          Fluoridation of our water is the most diabolic and ill - MrBlueSky MU - 5/23 18:26:38
               silly notion (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:28:02
          Because there has never been any legitimate proof - playhard NWMSU - 5/23 18:26:36
               no, but there isn't any "legitimate proof" of any - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:27:32
                    Other than the countless people working for Trump who - MrBlueSky MU - 5/23 18:29:07
                         and? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:33:16
               BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE IT DOESN'T EXIST - MrBlueSky MU - 5/23 18:26:59
                    silly notion (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:27:51
                         And you asked a silly question to begin with - MrBlueSky MU - 5/23 18:29:42
                              from you, yes. So again, why is it you think the deep state - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:33:45
                                   The same reason I don't think free Masons or the bilderberg - MrBlueSky MU - 5/23 18:38:44
                                        I don't think they are operating "against Trump" because - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:43:29
     Sitting presidents support made up conspiracies all the time - El-ahrairah BAMA - 5/23 18:18:55
     Has a sitting president ever been spied on as candidate? - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/23 18:18:13
          No, but campaigns that colluded with Russia and - playhard NWMSU - 5/23 18:24:21
               You mean like Hillary? Bill got 500K, Uranium one deal? - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/23 19:09:55
               RE: No, but campaigns that colluded with Russia and - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:54:42
               colluding? to do what? what collusion? You might want to r - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:26:00
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                         Not really. Stay ignorant (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/23 19:58:37
                         you didn't even read it - 90Tiger MU - 5/23 18:33:01
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