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Posted on: May 16, 2018 at 13:58:18 CT
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http://time.com/5170954/trump-russia-election-hacking-obama-blame/

The U.S. government under Obama knew what the Russians were doing. Obama was warned repeatedly by Eastern European governments that Russia was meddling in their own elections. And while Latvian elections don’t exactly rank high on the list of an American president’s priorities, the White House could have guessed what the Russians were gearing up to do — and should have sent them a forceful message to knock it off. Obama apparently issued a direct warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin when they met in person in September 2016, but it came too late and had little effect.

The lack of defensive cyber weapons to deter the brunt of the meddling obviously complicated matters (and still does). Still, if you can’t formulate effective cyber-defense measures, at least put together clear policies to deter future attacks—go on the offensive and freeze Russian bank accounts, threaten to publish embarrassing information about Putin and his inner circle, and so on.

Instead it looks like there was barely any deterrence from the Obama administration — and that’s on him. By the time Wikileaks was starting to make waves in the presidential election with suspiciously timed email leaks, the response from the Obama administration was too weak and too late to stem the tide of false information.
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     Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, etc are invading us - Spanky KU - 5/16 13:56:43
     check your premise - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:54:11
     Such a typical lib conclusion. Irrational and wrong. - GA Tiger MU - 5/16 13:51:10
          But posted with great feeling.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:55:28
     When your neighbors kid sneaks in your house to bang your - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:40:45
          if Trump were in charge he would just deny that the - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:47:53
               lol, so triggered (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:59:29
               Keep focusing your anger on the Russians, it has been - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:52:40
          I agree with this. - Badird MU - 5/16 13:47:00
               if HRC had won the election, the obama administration - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:59:08
               RE: I agree with this. - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:58:18
               Oh and of course, AFTER the election, and only AFTER - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:57:25
               Our system was never breached. The Russian meddling was - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:51:42
                    That is incorrect - MrBlueSky MU - 5/16 13:57:00
                         How did that effect our election? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:59:26
                    lol, no. They breached voter rolls in 26 states iirc. - Badird MU - 5/16 13:54:49
                         The Russians or the Obama Justice Department? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:57:13
                              They did not. In fact, this is roughly the time that - Badird MU - 5/16 14:02:41
                                   If Illinois elections can be disrupted by a single breach - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 14:08:22
                                        Right, and thats what he said. - Badird MU - 5/16 14:10:09
                                             If such a simple hack can cause that much chaos then - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 14:17:31
                                                  The piece addressed this, althought I cant remember how. - Badird MU - 5/16 14:19:08
                                                       There were reports at the time claiming that the Obama DOJ - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 14:20:52
                                                            I sincerely doubt it - Badird MU - 5/16 14:26:00
               It's shocking you forget the Obama administration knew - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:51:26
                    Obama didnt ignore it. - Badird MU - 5/16 14:00:13
                         I don't believe any of that. First, Russia would love to - hokie VT - 5/16 14:56:19
                         obama absolutely ignored it - until AFTER the election then - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 14:07:00
                         At that point everyone, including you was taking a HRC - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 14:05:49
                              bingo - the discord they hoped for was multiplied by 10,000 - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 14:17:32
                                   You see everything through partisan lenses and accuse others - Badird MU - 5/16 14:24:24
                                        who said he was emotional? I didn't. It was completely - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 14:29:54
                                        Yep - MrBlueSky MU - 5/16 14:25:57
                              This is correct. - Badird MU - 5/16 14:14:10
                         Means to an end of the board cons - MrBlueSky MU - 5/16 14:03:13
     Why did we invade Normandy, to conquer - hokie VT - 5/16 13:37:01
          For power, control, and empire. - Kaw-djer - 5/16 13:46:55
               Is this your handle for today? - Ferg STL - 5/16 13:49:01
          oh so wait you are saying sometimes we meddle in - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:38:32
               Yes. We medled in WWII. Sorry if that offends - hokie VT - 5/16 14:10:04
               Russia interfering in the US election to keep Hillary out - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:39:23
                    so you endorse it? (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:44:30
                         I never said that. I am just laughing at Democrats who - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:46:19
                              bingo. that's all you stated and ham went full retard. Als - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:47:48
                              that is a ridiculous and tired argument like the Republicans - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:47:08
          Rice was just a side dish - Mormad MU - 5/16 13:38:23
     And yes. If the US attacked Russia. I'd fully expect - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:34:19
          we have attacked Germany. Would you be ok with them - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:36:54
               You think that is a valid argument. It is not. But does show - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:42:35
                    so I have to use a bully on a schoolyard for you - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:43:42
                         l - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:45:56
                         The US is the bully on the school yard numbnuts(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:44:20
                              wow, that was so DEEP I just now get it!!!! (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:48:34
     Do you support US meddling in foreign elections? - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:33:24
          that's not going to help. His argument (while quite obtuse) - dangertim MU - 5/16 13:37:07
               determining what happened is part of looking forward - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:42:57
          I'm not a fan of it but I also don't use it as a reason - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:36:29
               Nobody is saying the U.S. should "allow it" (nm) - Sal KC - 5/16 13:57:32
               you've gone full retard on this topic, fyi (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:39:45
                    your opinion means less than nothing (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:40:43
                         it's a fact. Your analogies are absurd and comical. Matt - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:43:57
                              it isn't a straw man. It is exactly what is being argued (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:45:52
                                   No it is not at all. If the US decided to invade Poland - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:48:39
                                        expect a response and being ok with the response - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:51:07
                                   everyone is telling you it isn't, but go on (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:46:25
                                        except... - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:49:17
                                             You're embarrassing yourself - it's a hypothetical - 90Tiger MU - 5/16 13:52:53
               Again. If a bully hits a kid on the playground can he cry - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:38:27
                    so you are ok with Germany invading us. Or Japan - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:40:17
               here's the thing. We shouldn't let it happen to us. - dangertim MU - 5/16 13:37:35
                    there are multiple parties to blame. Some seemed to - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:39:35
                         so the focus should be what can we do to prevent - dangertim MU - 5/16 13:40:41
                              Agree 100%. Election security is our responsibility. There - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/16 13:46:24
                              its hilarious you are blaming this on the left - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:41:59
                                   it's his job to investigate it? - dangertim MU - 5/16 13:43:47
                                        the executive branch does (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/16 13:45:06
     I'm pretty sure the idea is to stop it. Nobody is saying, - dangertim MU - 5/16 13:31:31
     We have used nuclear weapons on other countries. - Badird MU - 5/16 13:28:55
          If a bully punches a kid on the playground can he cry foul - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 13:35:08
               If one kid shoves another kid, and a third kid stabs him, - Badird MU - 5/16 13:49:40
                    Bullsh*t. - TigerMatt MU - 5/16 14:11:20




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