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Posted on: April 24, 2018 at 15:02:50 CT
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Since it will inevitably get lost below, and because I was late to the party, Id like to mention a few things about the Iran Nuclear deal.

1) Iran is in compliance. The IAEA says they are. The US State Dept says they are. All countries involved say they are.

2) Scrapping the Iran deal now will lose any/all credibility we have to denuclearize North Korea. Its been 3 years since the Iran deal was inked. Why would NK trust us to live up to any negotiated terms if, in 3 years, we back out with Iran.

3) We are the only country in the agreement that thinks its bad or wants it scrapped. Even Boris Johnson of the UK Brexit Party suggests that its a good deal and will keep Iran from immediately developing a nuclear weapon.

Federica Mogherini, the European Union's top foreign affairs official, said that all parties to the Iran nuclear deal agree that Tehran is in compliance with the plan. This came after a high-level meeting of all countries involved in the deal.

In a press briefing after the meeting, Tillerson said that the U.S. did not dispute that Iran was in "technical compliance" with the JCPOA.

4) How, exactly, is this deal one-sided, as Trump says constantly?
Iran gave up 98% of its enriched Uranium. It cannot stockpile more than 300kg of Uranium for at least 15 years.

Iran gave up 70% of its centrifuges, leaving only its oldest and least efficient for at least 10 years.

Iran wont be able to build a heavy water reactor to produce weapons-grade Plutonium for at least 15 years.Iran is allowed to keep 130 metric tons of 'heavy water'. Iran has crept above that number on two occasions according to the IAEA. Each infraction, Iran was over by a fraction of one ton.

Iran will allow robust inspection of known and suspected nuclear sites, including military areas, as well as any suspected site. Sites can be deemed suspicious based on holes in the ground that could indicate uranium mines, unexplained purchases or isotope alarms. If Iran objects to a particular inspection, a newly formed joint commission will decide whether to grant access. The commission, composed of the six countries who have been negotiating the agreement, plus Iran and the European Union, must make the call within 24 days, not enough time for Iran to hide evidence if it had opened a covert enrichment site, officials say.

5) What did we give them?
The United Nations, United States and European Union will lift crippling economic sanctions against Iran. Iran will have to meet the requirements to reduce its uranium stockpile, mothball centrifuges, dismantle the Arak reactor and give the IAEA information about its past activities before sanctions are lifted. Once the IAEA verifies that Iran has met those obligations, the U.S., U.N. and EU will lift sanctions. At that time, Iran will be able to sell oil again, rejoin the international financial system and reclaim overseas assets worth an estimated $100 billion to $150 billion that currently are frozen in international accounts.



To the people who agree with Trump that this is a one-sided deal, or that this is unfair in any way to the United States.... why do you think that?



Here is more information if you care:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-complying-nuclear-deal-iaea-says-donald-trump-united-nations/
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2017/jun/14/karen-handel/iran-complying-nuclear-deal-yes-small-hiccups/
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-middle-east-iran-nuclear-deal-outline-20150714-htmlstory.html
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Iran Nuclear Deal - Badird MU - 4/24 15:02:50
     Doesn't it just buy a brief window at a very high cost? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 15:58:45
          Was it acceptable to the West? - Silas MU - 4/24 16:09:44
               It's in the self-interest of A, B & C - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 17:20:00
               No, one size does not fit all. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/24 16:45:11
               Id argue that any country that has threatened another with - Badird MU - 4/24 16:15:05
          THAT is a comprehensive opposition. Thank you. - Badird MU - 4/24 16:02:29
               To add: - Badird MU - 4/24 16:05:18
     Trump's position is based on being ill infomed - FIJItiger MU - 4/24 15:57:44
          A couple of flaws in your logic - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 17:24:28
     RE: Iran Nuclear Deal - justwinbaby KC - 4/24 15:55:08
          That was Iran's money to begin with - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 16:29:59
          that could be bad. - justwinbaby KC - 4/24 16:01:03
          So laughably uninformed. Nice Trump talking point. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:57:17
     1) Iran is in compliance. The IAEA says they are. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/24 15:39:26
          Do yourself a favor and find out why its a bad deal then. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:42:14
               Your false assumptions do not win the argument. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/24 16:42:12
                    So why is it a bad deal? - Badird MU - 4/24 17:07:00
                         So why did you change the words I used? - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/24 17:16:38
                              "So why is it a bad deal?" - Badird MU - 4/24 17:18:39
                                   PS Ive asked this same question 4 times now and - Badird MU - 4/24 17:20:28
                                        I'm not going to give a specific answer when questioned - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/24 18:08:14
               Why do you think it's a good deal? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:44:14
                    What? Still? Why do you play dumb so convincingly? - Badird MU - 4/24 15:49:45
                         what happens after year 10? why is the US involved in - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:50:49
                              I understand your position on diplomacy. - Badird MU - 4/24 16:12:48
     So, does anyone think its a bad or one-sided deal? - Badird MU - 4/24 15:23:26
          Doesn't it just buy the West a brief window, nothing more? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 15:51:00
               They cannot enrich Uranium past ~3.5%, which is used in - Badird MU - 4/24 15:56:31
                    And "hope springs eternal" nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 17:27:22
                         10-15 years is longer than 1 year, right? Or wrong? - Badird MU - 4/24 17:32:17
                              If there's a confrontation it's better sooner than later - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 18:05:16
               yes and with more cash and resources. Nobody is going to - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:54:42
          Because Donnie is a blowhard and even though he's likely - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:26:41
          Right, because Obama (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:21:02
     Your newest article is November 2017, six months ago - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/24 15:15:15
          Heres one from February: - Badird MU - 4/24 15:17:23
     ITS A BAD DEAL - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/24 15:12:18
          it's not a bad deal b/c of Obama - Sal KC - 4/24 15:34:44
               Why? That is the point of this entire thread. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:39:19
                    what's your least favorite aspect of the deal and favorite - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:48:33
                    I agree with the deal - DC Jayhawk KU - 4/24 15:40:42
     you try authoritative proof in your first point - FootballRefugee MU - 4/24 15:09:37
          What evidence is there, besides the nonsense from Donnie - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:12:51
               what evidence is there, staying on topic here, that NK is go - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:14:17
                    Well, given that we have not even sat down as two countries - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:17:29
                    You are the one that is off-topic. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:16:00
                         I'm not FootballRefugee (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:17:01
          Wait, so even tho the State Dept, the countries that make up - Badird MU - 4/24 15:11:37
          Excellent post. There are two bad actors watching. Nm - hokie VT - 4/24 15:16:03
          Do you think that the USA would look like a more reliable - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:10:06
               I think I spell out my feelings about his post here: - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:13:11
                    I have said that what Donnie is attempting here with NK - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:15:00
                         you also said donnie is unstable and capable of anything. - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:17:54
                              I absolutely did not say that about him - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:19:21
                                   RE: I absolutely did not say that about him - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:19:50
                                        I'm not Badird - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:20:32
                                             my badird (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:21:14
                                        RE: I absolutely did not say that about him - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:20:04
          Is there a guarantee? ofc not. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:08:15
               your post was simple. I'm asking you why you suddenly think - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:11:13
                    I didnt say that. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:13:39
                         If you didn't say that, then wtf is the meaning of point 2? - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:16:22
                              I didnt say the NK negotiations are useless. - Badird MU - 4/24 15:18:24
                                   So you think Trump/Tillerson will get a deal with NK and - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:25:14
                                        I think there is a chance that Trump could reach a deal - Badird MU - 4/24 15:28:19
                                             So, now that Ive jumped through all of your hoops, will you - Badird MU - 4/24 15:32:48
                                                  I don't think the US gvmt should determine how Iran - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:39:29
                                             You realize that any deal NK signs with Trump as POTUS - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:32:25
                                                  I would only trust NK as far as our ability to monitor their - Badird MU - 4/24 15:38:18
                                                  He is the current POTUS. He has significant influence and - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:33:52
                                        Tillerson was fired (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:27:04
                                             it was a continuation of the original past post i linked - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:30:43
                                                  Tillerson was one of Trump's best cabinet appointments - MrBlueSky MU - 4/24 15:32:41
                                                       Do you retain employees who call you a moron? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/24 15:49:01




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