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Yes, it is wrong to cheat others out of things they would

Posted on: February 20, 2018 at 15:04:56 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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earn, but for the cheating.

Take that wasteland to the west of Missouri, for example. Who here doesn't think that their cheating cost Mizzou some wins, some titles, some personal honors, and a lot of revenue?
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Would you want to win a championship,&have it vacated 5 yrs - Macgrantt MU - 2/20 12:01:44
     I was once told by an OU alum, that he would be fine with - MU-TULSA MU - 2/20 15:41:44
     No. What’s the point - WildCard MU - 2/20 15:31:02
          The rules encourage and reward those who cheat (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 15:55:58
          There would be immediate and long-term benefits to - zounami MU - 2/20 15:35:34
               Like UConn has now? - Mormad MU - 2/20 15:53:38
                    Pretty unique situation there though - Cosmo MU - 2/20 16:45:26
                    UConn got left out of conf re-alignment - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 16:04:10
               Benefits obtained by cheating - WildCard MU - 2/20 15:47:00
          What if every other competitor is cheating and to be - BigSlickTiger MU - 2/20 15:33:54
               To be one of those half dozen or so programs in - gaber c. MU - 2/20 15:43:59
               I don’t believe that to be true - WildCard MU - 2/20 15:34:41
                    You'd end up at Pitt St where you belong(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 15:47:03
                         No, I remain a Mizzou fan. Thanks (nm) - WildCard MU - 2/20 15:47:50
                              Yeah that wasn't what it meant(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 15:59:39
                                   Then it makes no sense in the context of the original - WildCard MU - 2/20 16:02:55
                                        Noble post by a noble gentleman, I salute you!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 16:06:09
                    doubtful :0(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 15:43:51
                    You're naive if you think the majority of programs aren't - zounami MU - 2/20 15:36:37
                         I don’t think the majority are - WildCard MU - 2/20 15:45:55
                         careful, calling him naive is uncivil(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 15:37:06
                    RE: I don’t believe that to be true - BigSlickTiger MU - 2/20 15:36:19
     RE: Would you want to win a championship,&have it vacated 5 yrs - justwinbaby KC - 2/20 15:14:36
     In our case since we haven't won one in basketball sure. - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/20 14:36:40
     after seeing the effect of the Haith cratering, not winning - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/20 14:36:03
     The future asterisk doesn't undo the joy of the run - zodiac6 JC - 2/20 14:23:20
     Of course. All it does is put an asterisk next to it... - zounami MU - 2/20 13:29:15
          RE: Of course. All it does is put an asterisk next to it... - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/20 14:03:55
               Ready, Aim, Fire! (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/20 15:20:04
                    I prefer to give posters like this all the time they want - Cosmo MU - 2/20 16:23:23
               We have never sniffed a Final Four?(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/20 14:37:45
               You know we've been to several elite 8s right? Is that - TheWildcat STL - 2/20 14:16:07
                    I would think so. - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/20 14:43:14
                         5 I believe.(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/20 14:46:28
                    And we're pretty much sniffing the NCAAs this year too(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 2/20 14:17:16
                         We are firmly in the field. That dude is dumb as ****(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/20 14:19:51
                              Derpppp hey i'm big ray, we got bball on every tv in my - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 14:53:55
                              Firmly In is the working title on my autobiography - lqf2b8 MU - 2/20 14:26:50
                                   that's what she said - Macgrantt MU - 2/20 14:57:59
                                   Nobody was, now sit down(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 14:54:24
                                        well you never know until you ask (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 2/20 14:54:55
                                             Did you raise your hand(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 14:56:30
                                                  Oops(nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 2/20 15:02:23
     maybe, but that would be classic MU - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:22:11
     Does the ends justify the means? - MizzouTigerz MU - 2/20 12:32:52
          You act like following the arbitrary rules setup by this - tgr MU - 2/20 13:22:41
               You act like the NCAA was always like this. Then why did the - MizzouTigerz MU - 2/20 14:57:31
               then they should start their own organization - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:38:22
                    That's exactly what schools are looking into doing - Cosmo MU - 2/20 14:32:23
                         Day late and a dollar short. - MizzouTigerz MU - 2/20 15:00:59
                              Sure some schools and athletes have cheated - Cosmo MU - 2/20 15:07:49
                    I don't hear many complaining about it because they are - tgr MU - 2/20 13:40:15
                         so all kids would accept hookers, cash, and blo without - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:45:58
                              No, I think some are like MizzouTigerz and view it as - tgr MU - 2/20 13:49:49
                                   Yes, it is wrong to cheat others out of things they would - MizzouTigerz MU - 2/20 15:04:56
                                   so hs kids accepting those things is not wrong - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:52:43
                                        You assuming that the benefits are "fun" things like hookers - Cosmo MU - 2/20 14:22:58
     Does the vacating mean the coach who coached it would - StaleyTiger MU - 2/20 12:17:32
     100%. everyone knows and will remember louisville - ajpe53 MU - 2/20 12:16:20
          most people couldn't tell you who won that year anyway - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:47:36
               Most college basketball fans probably could. - StaleyTiger MU - 2/20 13:53:21
          Then take away thier NCAA membership - catbirdseat MU - 2/20 12:36:48
     Depends why it was vacated - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:14:59
          Frankie was a cheater - STRIPES - 2/20 12:28:15
               There was an investigation, it uncovered no - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:30:41
                    So you think the head coaches do not know what goes on?(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 2/20 13:53:43
                         According the NCAA, he did not. - tgr MU - 2/20 14:04:57
                              NCAA and MU both had a strong vested interest in nailing him - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 14:07:09
                                   Yeah MU was just dying to get more dirt on Frank - gaber c. MU - 2/20 14:26:33
                                        They did to the fullest degree that was possible (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 14:35:51
                         I don't follow your question - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 14:03:03
                    Frank is/was clean. APR score will take us down. - gaber c. MU - 2/20 12:40:07
                         I would greatly enjoy being wrong about one of those - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:41:20
                              Okee doke, bud. Please continue to enjoy your own, - gaber c. MU - 2/20 12:48:08
     Absolutely. Every other program is doing things that would - tgr MU - 2/20 12:12:24
     Nope. The fallout after having it vacated would well - Diamond Dave MU - 2/20 12:12:13
          Do you care that MU vacated its 1994 Elite Eight? - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:20:37
               RE: Do you care that MU vacated its 1994 Elite Eight? - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/20 12:36:06
                    Sure they have. That is just not a valid example(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:36:38
               Makes sense that in FIJILand EE’s = NC’s (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/20 12:25:32
                    No, vacated results = vacated results (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:27:19
                         so we won zero FFH's last season, agree - Jeff85 MU - 2/20 13:24:25
                              No, we won 23 games that season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 14:05:00
                         Not always. Depends on the school and the level of - Cosmo MU - 2/20 12:35:55
                              Ironically there is some level of truth to that - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:39:42
                                   RE: Ironically there is some level of truth to that - Big Ray 2 USA - 2/20 14:00:38
                                   What is ironic about it? It’s just the way it is (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/20 12:41:01
                                        In that in some ways you were correct, this time (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:46:39
                                             Oh feej, you rascal! (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/20 14:25:05
                         so louisville's vacated win over us = vacated national title - ajpe53 MU - 2/20 12:28:41
                              The win is vacated, it isn't given to the opponent (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:29:33
                                   i am well aware(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 2/20 12:30:04
                                        Texas Tech vacated their win against us in 1996-97 - FIJItiger MU - 2/20 12:34:56
                                             and tech's vacated regular season game against us = - ajpe53 MU - 2/20 12:37:08
               Forgot we did, to be honest. But winning a NC and getting - Diamond Dave MU - 2/20 12:22:58
                    I don't really care about Lville, their players won it on - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/20 12:24:05
     I would never want to win a championship by cheating.(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 2/20 12:09:53
     yes(nm) - Kazoo MU - 2/20 12:07:18
     Yes. Absolutely(nm) - TheRoyalTiger MU - 2/20 12:07:09




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