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Two I would implement are not on their list of options.

Posted on: December 6, 2017 at 10:54:15 CT
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1. I would get rid of all of the safety net government programs for able bodied citizens and replace them with a negative income tax. Something like 70% of the money spent on those programs is wasted on government bureaucracy and only 30% or so actually goes to those that it is intended for.

Under my plan no one would starve or freeze to death, nor go without at least the most basic stripped down health care needed for survival. But it might entail mostly a rice and beans or similarly inexpensive diet, and housing in a barracks with drug testing, and help in treatment of alcoholism, drug addiction etc., and care for the mentally ill.

2. I would get rid of the minimum wage. If people can work but cannot find employment, it should not be illegal for a person or business to hire them at a wage both agree to. If people earn wages below the subsistence level the negative income tax would kick in & rather than getting a tax bill, they would get a check for "the negative income tax". There would be a gradation in standard of living based upon what they earn rather than the wasteful, often unfair, hodgepodge of confusing and overlapping government programs that are absurdly wasteful in administering.

Those earning nothing live at the bare subsistence level. Those earning at least a little, even $1 per hour, have a little money to improve their standard of living somewhat. It gives those at the bottom end of the economic spectrum the incentive and the ability to find at least some employment, giving them the dignity of having a job, rather than living on the government dole with little chance of getting on that first rung of the ladder to success. As they gain skills and acclimatize to a work ethic, hopefully they can continue to climb that ladder to success, attaining a higher standard of living as they go.

It would eliminate most disincentives to work experienced under the current idiotic system, reduce the governmental administration overhead and would improve fairness.
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     That’s a crap website. It doesn’t let you cut - Ferg STL - 12/6 11:19:26
     Zero based budgeting, eliminate income tax - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/6 11:19:02
     Math for gop is hard - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/6 11:15:40
          Please share with us the plan you used on that site - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:13:16
     That was interesting. - limenats MU - 12/6 11:14:20
     First, glad to see your school even HAS an econ class. - GA Tiger MU - 12/6 11:07:50
     Two I would implement are not on their list of options. - JeffB MU - 12/6 10:54:15
          So you would give people a guarunteed income - meatiger MU - 12/6 11:18:36
               ' It is ok if you pay less than min wage, government will be - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:36:17
                    Here is what is funny - meatiger MU - 12/6 11:47:09
                         So your economic recommendation is what? Higher minimum - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:48:45
                    Either/or logical fallacy - pickle MU - 12/6 11:40:06
                         Please give us your alternative alternative. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:47:40
          Pretty good. The safety net has become a hammock. And - hokie VT - 12/6 11:13:17
               What is the obsession - meatiger MU - 12/6 11:19:01
                    That is for those advocating some sort of assistance for - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:39:16
                         Is there any proof - meatiger MU - 12/6 11:44:31
                              Your alternative is what? No government safety net, sink - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:50:54
                                   More logical fallacies. Stop the dishonesty (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 11:55:00
                                        Please show how asking those open ended questions is a - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:57:29
                         Oh, stop the excuse-making bull**** - pickle MU - 12/6 11:44:22
                              I thought you were so big on defining socialism as governmen - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:52:44
                    He's not a conservative. - pickle MU - 12/6 11:23:15
               Authoritarian, socialist big gvmt "solutions" - pickle MU - 12/6 11:17:25
          Lol - pickle MU - 12/6 11:00:36
          70%? lol, no. - Badird MU - 12/6 11:00:01
               I got that from a book by former Treasury Secretary - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:31:34
                    But this thinking is wrong. A family of 4 doesnt pay taxes - Badird MU - 12/6 12:51:06
                         That is irrelevant. The relevant ratios are how much money - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:57:26
                              RE: That is irrelevant. The relevant ratios are how much money - Badird MU - 12/6 14:22:00
     I played it - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/6 10:51:10
          My daughter reduced military spending by 50%. That should - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:18:12
               You're daughter isn't a republican? - tigerdb MU - 12/6 11:21:57
                    The US spends almost double the next 4 highest nations' - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:46:13
                         yeah..and people like you - meatiger MU - 12/6 11:48:40
                              Please back up your allegation with a link &/or quote. - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:55:11
                                   so.... - meatiger MU - 12/6 12:19:57
                                        Yes. Why would you assert otherwise without evidence - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:25:08
                                             Like "God is real"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 12:47:57
                                                  'There is a God' is rational. 'There is no God' is an irrati - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:54:12
                                                       No, Jeff. You are ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 13:30:53
                                                            Poor pickle, always wallowing in the slime at the bottom of - JeffB MU - 12/6 15:16:58
                                             RE: Yes. Why would you assert otherwise without evidence - meatiger MU - 12/6 12:26:32
                                                  Another questionable assertion. I spoke against Trump in - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:30:51
          That's a huge flaw. "Mandatory" spending. Bullshyte. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/6 11:10:29
     Eliminate the Federal Income Tax; immediately dismantle the - Evenflow MU - 12/6 10:50:09
          I'm not sure that website has options allowing her to - JeffB MU - 12/6 11:59:17
          They will probably hang her(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:50:44
               She'll likely be taking 6th grade again anyway.(nm) - tigerdb MU - 12/6 10:52:40
                    Yeah, 6th grade is about when the schools start to undo - ummmm MU - 12/6 10:56:03
     Govt assistance only for widows . - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/6 10:45:29
          What about children of foolish people, the mentally ill, - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:00:57
     Territorial tax policy for corporations(nm) - tman KC - 12/6 10:44:03
     I would redistribute all wealth in society to myself - TigerJackSwartz MU - 12/6 10:44:02
          Yeah you would **** on the rest of us(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:51:49
     None (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 10:43:52
     Eliminate the state (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 12/6 10:42:38
     eliminate the goverment/taxes, return to tribal society - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/6 10:40:48
          you'd be someone's b itch... - tigerdb MU - 12/6 10:50:48
               He likes it though.(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:52:14
               I'd make your mom my bed wench boy - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/6 10:52:08
                    My mother is rather elderly...not that she wouldn't still - tigerdb MU - 12/6 10:55:24
                    No. That is not how it would go down(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:52:35
                         No one is talking to you son(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/6 10:53:17
                              Sorry to interrupt father(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:53:48
     End the govt. monopoly on money. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/6 10:37:14
          End the Fed. End government control of money and - JeffB MU - 12/6 12:09:58
     Distribution of wealth (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:31:21
          RE: Distribution of wealth (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 12/6 10:39:09
               I am fishing(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:40:18
     I would allow individuals to run their homes as businesses - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 10:31:10
          "I would allow" - pickle MU - 12/6 10:52:10
               since it isn't allowed now - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 10:54:35
                    Your words. "I would allow" - pickle MU - 12/6 11:07:36
                         Again, you are trying to shift the basis - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 11:10:43
                              I'm not shifting anything, FR. - pickle MU - 12/6 11:18:11
                                   incorrect, son - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 11:29:33
                                        "I would allow" (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 12:11:05
                                             "cucumber"(nm) - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 13:00:47
          So I could write off living expenses?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 12/6 10:32:08
               some of them - FootballRefugee MU - 12/6 10:50:34




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