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But "I exist. I'm the sole owner of my life, body and mind."

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 21:10:37 CT
Alferd Packer MU
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The only way that I cannot travel freely is if you or someone else uses force against me.

By all means, explain how it is not a natural right without using any element of force in that explanation.
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Too funny...San Francisco has to pay illegal immigrant $190K - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 13:54:12
     Let's clear some things up here - pickle MU - 8/7 13:57:47
          lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 8/7 14:28:45
               exactly - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 14:40:50
          The Constitution does indeed permit immigration caps as part - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:19:43
          Why do you care about the Constitution of an 'illegitimate - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:01:17
               it's for the rule of law folks (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/7 14:03:16
                    incorrect - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 14:15:40
                         No, he got it right. - pickle MU - 8/7 14:16:27
                              you assertion makes my point - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 14:19:17
                                   1. you never made a point, 2. it makes pickle's - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:32:22
                                        well, it does to an original fellow Cucumber - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 14:34:41
                                             It's amusing when 90plagarizer jumps - Ferg STL - 8/7 14:45:13
                                                  irony (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:53:49
                                                  it's literally all he has - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 14:53:28
                                                       You thought I had returned to an establishment shill, which - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:54:39
                                                            that may be the way you describe what you think you see - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 15:10:22
                                                                 very little that you post here makes sense; you post much - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:11:19
                                                                      lol - FootballRefugee MU - 8/7 16:05:37
                                   lol what??? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 14:25:38
                    Good answer. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:09:52
                    What about the government that authorizes crime - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 14:08:18
                         Good question. eg. Sanctuary cities encouraging illegal - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:18:15
                    ^ best poster ever (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 14:05:02
                         aww shucks (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/7 14:29:25
          Yes, it came from taxpayer money (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 13:58:56
               Unfortunately - pickle MU - 8/7 14:04:30
                    Make restitution for what? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 14:05:24
                         Infringing on his rights and person (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 14:14:57
                              What rights? - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 14:46:38
                                   RE: What rights? - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 14:51:14
                                        Immigration is not a natural right. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:02:04
                                             Yes it is (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 15:06:41
                                                  According the what? - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:24:11
                                                       Right. The State infringes upon everyone - pickle MU - 8/7 15:26:43
                                                            Prove it's a "natural right." - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:29:23
                                                                 I exist. I am sole owner of my life, body, and mind. - pickle MU - 8/7 15:36:17
                                                                      So I have a "natural right" to enter your house. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:39:00
                                                                           No. That would be an infringement of my property rights (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 16:28:38
                                                                                But "I exist. I'm the sole owner of my life, body and mind." - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 21:10:37
                                                                           no, that's private property and you have property rights. - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:41:35
                                                                                I'm trying to simplify it for you. You're simpler than I - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:55:35
                                                                                     What happened to this angle? - ummmm MU - 8/7 16:47:22
                                                                                          He's desperate to shoehorn his tyrannical, big gvmt desires(nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 16:49:04
                                                                                               There is nothing "tyrannical" about the Law of Nations being - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 21:17:00
                                                                                               While at the same time, alleging to be a Constitutionalist (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/7 17:01:52
                                                                                                    If you don't recognize the power of Congress to make - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 21:19:30
                                                                                     why would you bring up private property rights - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 16:04:14
                                                                                How do you decide what's private property? - RHAYWORTH MU - 8/7 15:51:11
                                                                                     It begins with the ownership of self - pickle MU - 8/7 16:31:01
                                                                                     you have to work/do something with the land to have - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:56:43
                                   His right of self-ownership and sovereignty for one - pickle MU - 8/7 14:50:39
                                        That doesn't give anyone the right to cross national borders - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:27:41
                                             You are 100% incorrect - pickle MU - 8/7 15:30:19
                                                  Read the link and see if you can summarize it. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:37:23
                                                       I think this is both sad and hilarious - pickle MU - 8/7 17:22:13
                                                            So you're saying you can't explain it away. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 21:06:45
                                        Immigration IS in the Constitution. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:16:57
                                             No, it isn't. - pickle MU - 8/7 15:28:19
                                                  Yes, it is. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:34:28
                                                       It isn't. You're grasping here (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 15:36:57
                                                            You're the one that's grasping. The facts prove you wrong. - Alferd Packer MU - 8/7 15:40:39
     The real shame here is that tax victims of SF will fund that - ummmm MU - 8/7 13:57:31
          There was a warrant for his arrest... - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 13:59:38
               Non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 14:05:19
               RE: There was a warrant for his arrest... - ummmm MU - 8/7 14:03:17
          Exactly (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:58:08




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