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There were some battles in our HOA because some people

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 15:43:49 CT
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at some meeting passed a bylaw that commercial vehicles had to be kept in garages.

They were enforcing it against people who owned businesses and kept commercial vehicles at home. There were guys with landscaping or plumbing businesses and so on and neighbors turned them in for parking vehicles in the driveway or courts and they were warned, then fined if they didn't comply.

My sons started working for a landscaper in high school and after my oldest son turned 18 they had him get his class E license. The company was some distance away and when he was working close by and would be the next day they would just have him take the trucks home and drive them directly to the job site the next day.

Several times he drove a big truck with a dump bed home. We live on a court, but luckily for us none of our neighbors complained and neither we nor he was harassed for it. I saw the newsletters, though, where some people in the HOA were fined for it and some neighbors apparently got into very heated arguments over it.

I've only been to one HOA meeting, but at that one someone stood up for the business owners who were being harassed. The involved parties were not there as far as I know, but this guy said that as far as he was concerned he was just happy that these people had jobs given the large number of people who were out of work at the time. At least a couple of the people had trucks that were too tall to fit in their garage.

Some people ended up moving over the issue.

My son never signed any HOA agreement. Do you think the HOA had any legitimate authority over him to say that he couldn't park the dump truck down the street a bit?
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Was just a victim of extortion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:22:08
     You didn't have to do that...What you did was voluntary (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:29:35
          It was not voluntary. It was compulsion and coercion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:37:41
               Were you kidnapped and dragged to that city? Or did you - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:52:27
                    Almost three years ago, I told you - pickle MU - 8/7 13:06:49
                         agreed (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:23:43
                         The dishonesty is all yours pickle. You know that you are - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:12:09
                              Jeff, you should find another hobby, you're hardwired - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:24:34
                                   So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:26:46
                                        RE: So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:01
                                             So you are going to tuck tail and run when you have - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:32:27
                                                  I'm probably just going to chrome extension you completely - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:51:41
                                                       Yes, some people do stick their heads in the sand to hide - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:53:15
                                                            no, jeff, you don't, and that's the problem here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:24:19
                                                                 I understand that you run from a simple question when - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:42:30
                              Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:18:32
                                   Your lack of any reasonable, logical reply was expected. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:27:45
                              Homeowners associations are voluntary contracts you - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:17:28
                                   Your effort is appreciated, but this one is unreachable (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:30:58
                                   The HOA claims jurisdiction over everyone living within the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:24:52
                                        "just like any other govt", other than the mutual, voluntary - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:36
                                             "pickle has never explained how he ended up in this country" - pickle MU - 8/7 13:32:50
                                                  You certainly have provided ZERO logical reason or - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:52:11
                    you don't sign an agreement with govt, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:54:02
                         Not all agreements are signed 90. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:01:27
                              there is no voluntary nor implied contract, Jeff. Good - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:02:23
                                   Common law says otherwise. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:14:33
                                        what the hell is that? Jeff, govt makes you a citizen - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:27:25
                                             Do you think someone who was 'born into' a home within - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                                                  If i'm born to my father who is in an hoa, he's bound - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:52:53
                                                       When the HOA says you can't park your motorcycle on the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:57:26
                                                            If I'm a minor, I'm under my dad's obligation, but I'm - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:30:27
                                                                 If the HOA says no commercial vehicles may be kept in - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:47:16
                                                                      wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:48
                                                                           There were some battles in our HOA because some people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:43:49
                                                       and when he dies and that home is now yours, the HOA can - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:54:13
                                                            jeff, when he dies, if I "get the house", I will have to sig - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:31:19
                                                                 #1, that is coercion every bit as much as pickle rails - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:53:32
                                                                      no jeff, it's stipulated in the HoA i signed originally - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:21
                                                                           If all of the states, cities & counties etc. forced people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:31:54
                                                                                wut? - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:40:10
                                                                                     The HOA stakes out its territory and says that anyone and - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:50:15
                                        Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:05
                                   There would be quite a bit more than Implied Consent - STL1DFW STL - 8/7 13:09:16
                         He doesn't have to own a car and drive on public roads (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:58:26
               Threat of death? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:47:11
                    Yes, threat of death. That's for all the State's "laws" (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:56:53
                    what happens if you don't comply? follow the steps - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:53:14
                         There is a threat of force, sure - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:56:44
                              What happens if you defend yourself from the assault - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:15:51
                              Yes it will. Resist enough and you'll be killed - pickle MU - 8/7 13:03:11
                              if i fail to comply with every ensuing step, of course - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:58:47
                                   At what point does this happen? What point does death occur? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:11:22
                                        you need to wake up (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:25:26
                                             Lol, ok? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:34:33
                                                  RE: Lol, ok? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:53:19
                                        It could happen at any point - pickle MU - 8/7 13:16:25
                                        You get pulled over for expired tags. - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:14:09
          no, non-compliance results in fees which are then enforced - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:30:59
               keep us posted - Silas MU - 8/7 12:35:16
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:25:46
     Shouldn't have paid. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:14
          Why? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:56
               On principle (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:10:42
                    Which principle? Explain (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:40
                         The bullsh*t you spout off about daily. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                              I'm asking you to identify which principle - pickle MU - 8/7 13:33:59
                                   meh - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 14:08:18
                                        Oh, I don't expect an answer - pickle MU - 8/7 15:01:24
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:23:37
          I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:21
               RE: I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:47:47
                    What a stupid response (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:10:38
          He's a coward and a hypocrite (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:43




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