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what the hell is that? Jeff, govt makes you a citizen

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 13:27:25 CT
90Tiger STL
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at birth, you don't choose it. once done, it dictates you are subject to it's laws under threat of force.

that's no voluntary agreement, no implied mutual contract.
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Was just a victim of extortion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:22:08
     You didn't have to do that...What you did was voluntary (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:29:35
          It was not voluntary. It was compulsion and coercion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:37:41
               Were you kidnapped and dragged to that city? Or did you - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:52:27
                    Almost three years ago, I told you - pickle MU - 8/7 13:06:49
                         agreed (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:23:43
                         The dishonesty is all yours pickle. You know that you are - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:12:09
                              Jeff, you should find another hobby, you're hardwired - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:24:34
                                   So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:26:46
                                        RE: So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:01
                                             So you are going to tuck tail and run when you have - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:32:27
                                                  I'm probably just going to chrome extension you completely - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:51:41
                                                       Yes, some people do stick their heads in the sand to hide - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:53:15
                                                            no, jeff, you don't, and that's the problem here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:24:19
                                                                 I understand that you run from a simple question when - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:42:30
                              Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:18:32
                                   Your lack of any reasonable, logical reply was expected. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:27:45
                              Homeowners associations are voluntary contracts you - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:17:28
                                   Your effort is appreciated, but this one is unreachable (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:30:58
                                   The HOA claims jurisdiction over everyone living within the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:24:52
                                        "just like any other govt", other than the mutual, voluntary - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:36
                                             "pickle has never explained how he ended up in this country" - pickle MU - 8/7 13:32:50
                                                  You certainly have provided ZERO logical reason or - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:52:11
                    you don't sign an agreement with govt, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:54:02
                         Not all agreements are signed 90. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:01:27
                              there is no voluntary nor implied contract, Jeff. Good - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:02:23
                                   Common law says otherwise. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:14:33
                                        what the hell is that? Jeff, govt makes you a citizen - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:27:25
                                             Do you think someone who was 'born into' a home within - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                                                  If i'm born to my father who is in an hoa, he's bound - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:52:53
                                                       When the HOA says you can't park your motorcycle on the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:57:26
                                                            If I'm a minor, I'm under my dad's obligation, but I'm - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:30:27
                                                                 If the HOA says no commercial vehicles may be kept in - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:47:16
                                                                      wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:48
                                                                           There were some battles in our HOA because some people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:43:49
                                                       and when he dies and that home is now yours, the HOA can - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:54:13
                                                            jeff, when he dies, if I "get the house", I will have to sig - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:31:19
                                                                 #1, that is coercion every bit as much as pickle rails - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:53:32
                                                                      no jeff, it's stipulated in the HoA i signed originally - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:21
                                                                           If all of the states, cities & counties etc. forced people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:31:54
                                                                                wut? - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:40:10
                                                                                     The HOA stakes out its territory and says that anyone and - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:50:15
                                        Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:05
                                   There would be quite a bit more than Implied Consent - STL1DFW STL - 8/7 13:09:16
                         He doesn't have to own a car and drive on public roads (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:58:26
               Threat of death? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:47:11
                    Yes, threat of death. That's for all the State's "laws" (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:56:53
                    what happens if you don't comply? follow the steps - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:53:14
                         There is a threat of force, sure - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:56:44
                              What happens if you defend yourself from the assault - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:15:51
                              Yes it will. Resist enough and you'll be killed - pickle MU - 8/7 13:03:11
                              if i fail to comply with every ensuing step, of course - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:58:47
                                   At what point does this happen? What point does death occur? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:11:22
                                        you need to wake up (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:25:26
                                             Lol, ok? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:34:33
                                                  RE: Lol, ok? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:53:19
                                        It could happen at any point - pickle MU - 8/7 13:16:25
                                        You get pulled over for expired tags. - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:14:09
          no, non-compliance results in fees which are then enforced - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:30:59
               keep us posted - Silas MU - 8/7 12:35:16
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:25:46
     Shouldn't have paid. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:14
          Why? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:56
               On principle (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:10:42
                    Which principle? Explain (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:40
                         The bullsh*t you spout off about daily. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                              I'm asking you to identify which principle - pickle MU - 8/7 13:33:59
                                   meh - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 14:08:18
                                        Oh, I don't expect an answer - pickle MU - 8/7 15:01:24
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:23:37
          I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:21
               RE: I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:47:47
                    What a stupid response (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:10:38
          He's a coward and a hypocrite (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:43




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