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#1, that is coercion every bit as much as pickle rails

Posted on: August 7, 2017 at 14:53:32 CT
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against with respect to getting a license plate to drive on public highways.

#2. What if your parents add your name to the title of the home... and you never sign any HOA papers. Then, when they die the home is now yours. You own it. You never signed any HOA papers.

But they say that YOUR home is within their geographical boundaries, and by their rules you are subject to them now and forever... and you can never secede from their authority.

Pickle says that it is coercion/extortion to force him to sign documents saying he's a citizen to get a passport. Why is forcing you to abide by the rules of an HOA you don't like nor ever agreed to be bound by in order to enjoy the use of a home that YOU OWN any different?
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Was just a victim of extortion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:22:08
     You didn't have to do that...What you did was voluntary (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:29:35
          It was not voluntary. It was compulsion and coercion - pickle MU - 8/7 12:37:41
               Were you kidnapped and dragged to that city? Or did you - JeffB MU - 8/7 12:52:27
                    Almost three years ago, I told you - pickle MU - 8/7 13:06:49
                         agreed (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:23:43
                         The dishonesty is all yours pickle. You know that you are - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:12:09
                              Jeff, you should find another hobby, you're hardwired - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:24:34
                                   So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:26:46
                                        RE: So, just to be clear... do you stand with pickle with respec - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:01
                                             So you are going to tuck tail and run when you have - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:32:27
                                                  I'm probably just going to chrome extension you completely - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:51:41
                                                       Yes, some people do stick their heads in the sand to hide - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:53:15
                                                            no, jeff, you don't, and that's the problem here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:24:19
                                                                 I understand that you run from a simple question when - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:42:30
                              Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:18:32
                                   Your lack of any reasonable, logical reply was expected. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:27:45
                              Homeowners associations are voluntary contracts you - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:17:28
                                   Your effort is appreciated, but this one is unreachable (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:30:58
                                   The HOA claims jurisdiction over everyone living within the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:24:52
                                        "just like any other govt", other than the mutual, voluntary - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:28:36
                                             "pickle has never explained how he ended up in this country" - pickle MU - 8/7 13:32:50
                                                  You certainly have provided ZERO logical reason or - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:52:11
                    you don't sign an agreement with govt, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:54:02
                         Not all agreements are signed 90. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:01:27
                              there is no voluntary nor implied contract, Jeff. Good - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:02:23
                                   Common law says otherwise. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:14:33
                                        what the hell is that? Jeff, govt makes you a citizen - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:27:25
                                             Do you think someone who was 'born into' a home within - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                                                  If i'm born to my father who is in an hoa, he's bound - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:52:53
                                                       When the HOA says you can't park your motorcycle on the - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:57:26
                                                            If I'm a minor, I'm under my dad's obligation, but I'm - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:30:27
                                                                 If the HOA says no commercial vehicles may be kept in - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:47:16
                                                                      wut? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:48
                                                                           There were some battles in our HOA because some people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:43:49
                                                       and when he dies and that home is now yours, the HOA can - JeffB MU - 8/7 13:54:13
                                                            jeff, when he dies, if I "get the house", I will have to sig - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 14:31:19
                                                                 #1, that is coercion every bit as much as pickle rails - JeffB MU - 8/7 14:53:32
                                                                      no jeff, it's stipulated in the HoA i signed originally - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:13:21
                                                                           If all of the states, cities & counties etc. forced people - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:31:54
                                                                                wut? - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 15:40:10
                                                                                     The HOA stakes out its territory and says that anyone and - JeffB MU - 8/7 15:50:15
                                        Lol - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:05
                                   There would be quite a bit more than Implied Consent - STL1DFW STL - 8/7 13:09:16
                         He doesn't have to own a car and drive on public roads (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 8/7 12:58:26
               Threat of death? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:47:11
                    Yes, threat of death. That's for all the State's "laws" (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:56:53
                    what happens if you don't comply? follow the steps - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:53:14
                         There is a threat of force, sure - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 12:56:44
                              What happens if you defend yourself from the assault - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:15:51
                              Yes it will. Resist enough and you'll be killed - pickle MU - 8/7 13:03:11
                              if i fail to comply with every ensuing step, of course - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:58:47
                                   At what point does this happen? What point does death occur? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:11:22
                                        you need to wake up (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:25:26
                                             Lol, ok? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 13:34:33
                                                  RE: Lol, ok? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 13:53:19
                                        It could happen at any point - pickle MU - 8/7 13:16:25
                                        You get pulled over for expired tags. - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 13:14:09
          no, non-compliance results in fees which are then enforced - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:30:59
               keep us posted - Silas MU - 8/7 12:35:16
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - 90Tiger MU - 8/7 12:25:46
     Shouldn't have paid. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:14
          Why? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:56
               On principle (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:10:42
                    Which principle? Explain (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:23:40
                         The bullsh*t you spout off about daily. - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 13:30:42
                              I'm asking you to identify which principle - pickle MU - 8/7 13:33:59
                                   meh - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 14:08:18
                                        Oh, I don't expect an answer - pickle MU - 8/7 15:01:24
     RE: Was just a victim of extortion - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:23:37
          I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 12:28:21
               RE: I don't have a desire to be killed (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 12:47:47
                    What a stupid response (nm) - pickle MU - 8/7 13:10:38
          He's a coward and a hypocrite (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/7 12:24:43




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