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Regardless of price of essentials and housing

Posted on: May 26, 2017 at 16:17:40 CT

MrBlueSky MU

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under a flat tax/consumption tax/etc, the poorest Americans will be spending the vast majority of their income on these things and will struggle. And it will further lead to the erosion of the middle class.

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I could tolerate a flat tax of 15%(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:37:47

keep your hands out of my pockets (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/26 16:03:12

If he were young, blonde and had big tits would - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 18:32:43

I was waiting for you to chime in(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:05:10

I've got plenty of problems with all sorts of taxes - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 5/26 16:02:21

Put it on a post card - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/26 15:59:50

National sales tax - JG A - 5/26 16:02:57

People don't - Zeaux MWSC - 5/26 16:05:28

At 30%?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:03:26

There would be some deductions for food - JG A - 5/26 16:05:40

Friggin drug dealers would be chipping in(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:06:36

If it can be lower make it happen. Also no self employment - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:02:20

There would have to be zero deductions - JG A - 5/26 15:48:35

I know. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:49:39

I favor the National Sales Tax idea.. - Spanky KU - 5/26 15:47:44

Sales tax and flat taxes are extremely - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:02:06

You look at it backwards. They will still receive - tman KC - 5/26 21:12:34

Because poor people have to pay something instead - Spanky KU - 5/26 16:31:35

Poor folks pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes - raskolnikov MU - 5/26 19:03:07

No, because poor people will have to pay a - tiger98 MU - 5/26 18:27:01

Because poor people pay a higher % of their income - SparkyStalcup MU - 5/26 16:54:12

and? Is that my problem? Why must i - Spanky KU - 5/26 17:22:18

Shouldn't we at least try to be fair? Flat tax is - tiger98 MU - 5/26 18:29:51

a consumption tax is fair. Exclude food and move on - Spanky KU - 5/26 20:17:19

how so? - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:18:14

You love to say things like - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:21:16

Don't buy so much housing then - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:27:22

that wouldn't be equitable - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:28:01

equity does not mean equal (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:29:03

So what? I don't care about you folks in the lower brackets - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:04:15

So the poorest people should pay the highest portion of - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:09:23

No they pay 15 percent like everyone else(nm) - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:20:59

15% as a proportion of $16,000 income is - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:22:08

Stupidest thing I've read today. Congrats.(nm) - tiger98 MU - 5/26 18:31:18

Lol what??? (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/26 17:40:55

15% is 15% - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:26:16

Again, thank you. I can read just fine. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:27:50

This is a new level of stupidity for you (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/26 17:41:29

15% is 15% to everybody - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:28:30

Yet they drive on the same roads - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:31:01

Well - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:33:10

Hahaha - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:34:10

I'm sure young enterprising businessmen like - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:35:45

Public roads? - pickle MU

- 5/26 17:43:35

what you should do is take a whole bunch of money from - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:32:03

People should pay the same portions of their income. - Zeaux MWSC - 5/26 16:10:27

I certainly understand that sentiment - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:12:11

the poor pay less (or none) now - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:22:12

Thank you, I posted this below. Which is why, if you - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:24:18

so end taxation - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:25:36

Taxation as a policy is - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:27:02

That's a non-argument (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/26 17:44:15

so people have always stolen others' money - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:27:40

Again, your crusade is not going very well. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:29:50

because the people with the big guns - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 16:30:54

Isn't that the case now? - Zeaux MWSC - 5/26 16:18:05

Currently the poorest pay little to no income tax - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:20:21

Sounds like a pricing issue. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:14:34

Regardless of price of essentials and housing - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:17:40

Flat tax certainly is, but I think sales taxe that exclude - raskolnikov MU - 5/26 16:03:45

Do we have, or ever had, one that is not regressive?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 16:03:03

If you remove the boatloads of deductions and exemptions - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:10:56

Maybe, maybe not.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 16:13:11

Cap Dividends and estate taxes are not regressive(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/26 16:04:32

Thanks. Lost my focus for a minute.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 16:07:11

Me too like some form of a VAT - raskolnikov MU - 5/26 15:59:16

I think it would put way too much responsibility and - Zeaux MWSC - 5/26 15:57:55

Sounds good. But I'm skeptical, for several reasons. - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 15:57:34

I would prefer no sales tax - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 15:55:42

I could live with that.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 15:59:02

Same here. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 16:00:20

Does 12% balance the budget?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:57:11

Yep - El-ahrairah KC - 5/26 16:01:17

So the answer you're looking for is no - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:13:10

Depends on how much you droolers spend.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 5/26 16:13:56

He suggested getting rid of a lot of things that - MrBlueSky MU - 5/26 16:15:02

What level would it need to be? (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:48:43

30% is what I think I read last year. - Spanky KU - 5/26 15:49:34

30%? Lol. There goes consumption. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:51:57

Right pocket, left pocket.... - Spanky KU - 5/26 16:33:47

With a voluntary rate of 25%, for progressives. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/26 15:44:33

Or they could go here and donate themselves - TIGERROAR MU - 5/26 15:49:00

Does anyone do that?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:52:45

No thanks. I don't care about my fellow man - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:47:16

good to hear(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/26 15:40:45

What you say?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 5/26 15:41:07