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Agree to an extent, disagree to an extent

Posted on: April 21, 2017 at 09:45:22 CT
FIJItiger MU
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I don't fault Kim at all for accepting the job.

After the first season, he pretty much knew he couldn't do it and had lost any possibility of ever succeeding. But after that season we changed AD's, and then after the next season we changed AD's, and we concocted an investigation and had to wait on the NCAA, etc. The only person with the power to end the charade on behalf of MU basketball was Kim, by quitting/stepping aside and letting the program start trying again. Had he left after year 1, it would have just been a very bad year and easily recovered from by a good coach. Instead our program got cratered and we are essentially starting from scratch. That is on Kim.
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Some inherited ‘interesting circumstances’ - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:11:56
     does a day go by when you don't act like a - Jeff85 MU - 4/21 14:25:49
     He's back.... - bobby MU - 4/21 13:50:34
     My question is, in the unlikely event you actually get - jumbo73 MU - 4/21 11:57:37
          Sure, I'd be fine with that. - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 12:11:29
               No, you didn't just 'observe it'. You chose to - jumbo73 MU - 4/21 12:25:40
                    Don't believe that appointment ever occurred (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 12:33:44
     Can you please go back to trolling opposing - tiger98 MU - 4/21 11:42:55
     Um, you included the things KA inherited, not Cuonzo. I - Sleepy MU - 4/21 10:25:39
          Kim didn't inherit any of those issues. He created them(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 11:01:54
               You have a legitimate mental handicap. - Sleepy MU - 4/21 11:17:41
          yeah and he tanked.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 10:31:08
               Yeah, but in a good way(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/21 10:59:54
                    Yeah like the Titanic sunk in a good way(nm) - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 11:06:53
                         Titanic sank brilliantly. It wasn't going to last forever - raskolnikov MU - 4/21 12:27:34
     In fairness to Kim I think the forced marriage to Fuller - jlbomega MU - 4/21 09:54:06
          It wouldn't have changed anything but retaining Fuller was - Uncle John MU - 4/21 10:49:03
               First steps are often decisive. Having someone else in place - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 10:54:59
                    It would have made us the worst major program immediately - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 11:00:54
                         RE: It would have made us the worst major program immediately - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 11:01:51
                              I don't know those people, I am not privy to their reasons(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 11:02:30
                                   Well they certainly know more about playing basketball, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 11:04:21
                                        Kim is why Mizzou was his #2 choice instead of #1. He wanted - zounami MU - 4/24 23:21:22
                                             Lorenzo is why Mizzou was his #2 choice instead of #1. He - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/4 13:41:37
                    Not only did they lose an entire year of recruiting they - sprintcar STL - 4/21 11:00:28
                    RE: First steps are often decisive. Having someone else in place - jrizzle MU - 4/21 10:57:12
                         Tell me again why CJ committed and MPJ had Mizzou second - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 10:59:19
          KA was stumbling block out of the gate.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 10:31:32
          if he was D1 material he would have said I WILL BRING MY OWN - MU-TULSA MU - 4/21 10:08:06
               KA wasn't going to really truly succeed at D1 with his - Sleepy MU - 4/21 10:28:00
                    Agree all those negatives don't mean he wasn't capable of D1 - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 10:59:48
                    So he was brought in to fail miserably? I don't understand - StaleyTiger MU - 4/21 10:38:05
                         Well he was brought in by Alden and Alden may have insisted - MU-TULSA MU - 4/21 11:41:23
                         That is unmitigated transformation. - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 10:46:22
                    He wasn't going to succeed because he was not qualified and - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 10:32:26
          Don't bother - XRob MU - 4/21 09:58:30
               He inheritied a better team that CM did(nm) - Shrine Devine MU - 4/21 10:32:54
               nobody said he came into a "great situation", but he didn't - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 10:23:04
               Kim came in to a beter situation than MA and that is - TheWildcat STL - 4/21 10:15:11
                    These are the players each coach inherited - hou4mu MU - 4/21 10:38:31
               Nah, Kim was the only coach in D1 history - Da_Haze KC - 4/21 10:02:46
                    He failed, he wasn't a good coach - XRob MU - 4/21 10:04:36
                         Those simple and spot on words aren't enough - hou4mu MU - 4/21 10:27:58
                         When Kim makes an outlandish claim like he did, it's going - tgr MU - 4/21 10:14:48
          That was our last tie to being a D1 program, when - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:58:16
               RE: That was our last tie to being a D1 program, when - StlWeir MU - 4/21 10:30:26
          The fact that Kim necessitated an assistant be retained was - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/21 09:57:30
               RE: taking a job he wasn't qualified for. - XRob MU - 4/21 10:02:59
     Thank you Mike Alden, Frank Haiti, and Kim Anderson (nm) - Hbombtiger STL - 4/21 09:49:20
     Why would anyone still be b!tching about our previous - Mack's Daddy AU - 4/21 09:47:18
          It happened 14 hours ago, fyi - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:49:46
               But we've got a supermodel now, who cares what he says? - Mack's Daddy AU - 4/21 10:04:48
                    I'm not into weird analogies. I like MU basketball (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 10:55:10
               if you think he was so bad why would you even read - ajpe53 MU - 4/21 09:50:45
                    I'm a big MU basketball fan, try to stay - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:54:53
                         what he says about it has no impact on the program in any - ajpe53 MU - 4/21 09:56:18
                    Obsessions need constant feeding (nm) - hou4mu MU - 4/21 09:54:29
     What happened with our program was not the fault... - Outsider MU - 4/21 09:41:51
          Agree to an extent, disagree to an extent - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:45:22
     21 million $$$ fireman are hired to get results, not cry-nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 4/21 09:39:13
     Nice way to disparage a former coach...who by all - Logan BAMA - 4/21 09:17:14
          They are hippocrips, claim to be MU fans but slam a True Son - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/21 09:52:20
               Hippocrips is a worse gang than Rhino-crips. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:56:36
          what does being a nice guy have to do with it and who - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 09:46:51
               Treat others as you would want to be treated... - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:13:01
                    you're blabbing about a red herring to avoid reality here. - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 10:24:51
                         What's the end game here...I'm not seeing the value. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:29:03
                              then ignore his post - it's very hard, I know (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 10:41:19
                                   Very rarely do...but noticed the deception through subtlety. - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:47:32
                                        you failed (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 10:49:53
                                             Happens to everyone....and it's all - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:51:58
                                                  No, I mean you failed if you claim your intent was - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 11:08:16
                                                       I thought it was clear in my subject line... - Logan BAMA - 4/21 11:20:11
                                                            you did nothing to support your position in any way - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 11:24:46
                                                                 You're making this more than it is.... - Logan BAMA - 4/21 11:36:31
          I agree but KA needs to shut up too. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/21 09:42:49
          He sucked - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 09:33:12
               Some people probably say the same about you...but they - Logan BAMA - 4/21 09:42:09
                    If I failed that badly based on every single measurable - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 09:50:34
                         I think KA's record speaks for itself...just - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:00:00
                              He was bad. - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 10:09:30
                                   Try the high road for a change of pace... - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:14:40
                                        He sucked - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 10:27:42
                                             The high road is too difficult for you and others here. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:31:41
          Thats all figi can do - STRIPES - 4/21 09:22:15
          Do you think it's wrong or unfair to disparage a coach who - tgr MU - 4/21 09:21:42
               Don't confuse the bama fans with facts. Nm - The Oracle 99 - 4/21 09:49:33
                    See...this is not a good look for you. - Logan BAMA - 4/21 10:10:03
               Discuss to what end...makes you all look petty. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 4/21 09:25:51
                    Anytime a fan base talks about an ex coach who happened to - The Oracle 99 - 4/21 09:44:17
               RE: Do you think it's wrong or unfair to disparage a coach who - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:22:51
     Missouri was traditionally 2nd or 3rd in the SEC? - alstl MU - 4/21 09:15:36
          Prior to 2014 - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:19:46
               slightly above, equal or slightly behind either UF or Ark - tjwheeler UI - 4/21 16:42:59
               Missouri wasn't in the SEC thus no SEC tradition - alstl MU - 4/21 13:43:49
               Wrong. What happened in the Big 8 and Big 12 doesn't relate - Uncle John MU - 4/21 09:33:31
                    So kU, duke, NC(heaters), UCLA and kY - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 09:39:59
                    Uh, ok. That is nonsense (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:34:48
                         Nothing against the past, but it has nothing to do with the - Uncle John MU - 4/21 09:39:14
                              MU is an SEC program. Among the top 3 SEC programs - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:41:46
     I wonder how many times he will say "we are young". nm - BandG MU - 4/21 08:51:51
     Having a douche as a moderator on the top fan board. - STLTIGER MU - 4/21 08:44:04
          What does Fiji's moderator status have to do with anything? - tgr MU - 4/21 08:46:50
               So any of us can declare our post as a featured post - STLTIGER MU - 4/21 13:07:57
                    Yes, anyone can request that - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 13:20:05
               "-True Sons still around." - Evenflow MU - 4/21 08:50:57
               Your 2nd to last sentence is the answer (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:49:03
     How many coaches at a new job inherit a good situation? - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/21 08:37:43
          He inherited a better situation than Quin, Mike, or Haith(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:38:31
               I disagree with that. I think he inherited better than Mike - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/21 08:42:18
                    Quin's inherited situation: - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:05:14
                    agree.I would have expected results akin to MA's 1st 3 years - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/21 08:49:20
                         I agree. Mike Anderson inherited some bad guys, high-ranked - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/21 08:55:03
               or Martin (nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/21 08:39:43
     Dude, stop flip flopping - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/21 08:33:23
          That isn't flip flopping - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:37:21
               Well that isn't correct. There were APR issues during - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/21 08:42:21
                    Right, that is the myth part - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:54:02
                         This is a classic example of Fiji at work - hou4mu MU - 4/21 09:38:27
                              Agree. Factual information/clarification is what I try to - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:40:21
                                   Oh, it's an example all right (nm) - hou4mu MU - 4/21 09:49:49
          one thing has been proven, fiji knows dick about APR(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 4/21 08:35:01
     like Norm said in his last interview Kim inherited a mess - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/21 08:31:06
          Kim made millions and failed miserably - catbirdseat MU - 4/21 09:13:53
          Didn't Norm also say Kim was doing a good job? - tgr MU - 4/21 08:36:05
               I believe he also said Haith was doing a good job (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/21 08:56:43
          Which is sad, because Norm is not really a fool - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:35:38
               When men get that age, they're not the sharpest (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/21 08:56:19
               Frank Haith - XRob MU - 4/21 08:42:04
                    That is illogical. - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:50:43
                         This isn't any industry. It's coaching of college basketball - hou4mu MU - 4/21 09:46:55
                         thanks for making my point - XRob MU - 4/21 09:35:26
                              The actual truth is the situation Kim inherited - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 09:38:21
                    He knew he was going to be fired so he left. - tgr MU - 4/21 08:43:41
          now if Kim could have only coached at D1 level - Nazfan MU - 4/21 08:34:07
     Kim's tenure: - StaleyTiger MU - 4/21 08:17:36
          Another Kim post from Staley, the Kim troll!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 4/21 08:29:24
     where can i find his comments? nm - JohnGalt MU - 4/21 08:15:06
          Here you go: - FIJItiger MU - 4/21 08:34:45




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