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Insurance is not health care

Posted on: March 29, 2017 at 14:10:10 CT
pickle MU
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So right off the bat you're arguing incorrectly.

There is no market failure to be "corrected"; you are operating from a false premise, which is a fallacy. The free market is simply a voluntary exchange absent force and fraud.

I'm not even going to legitimize your straw man. Do better
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List of politicians and how much they sold you out - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:17:26
     Why should government be involved on either side - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:15:39
          Okay. So, what if every ISP sells your information? What if - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:33:56
               That's between you and the company - pickle MU - 3/29 13:41:36
               RE: Okay. So, what if every ISP sells your information? What if - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:36:24
                    RE: Okay. So, what if every ISP sells your information? What if - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:38:21
          Exactly (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 13:18:46
               Pickle, you need to get over this idea that - Badird MU - 3/29 13:36:12
                    You need to drop your logical fallacies - pickle MU - 3/29 13:51:36
                         Ah so if they dont share your 'morality' - Badird MU - 3/29 13:57:05
                              I get it, you see no value in government at all - Badird MU - 3/29 14:07:20
                                   No, you aren't immoral for seeing value in FCC, EPA, etc - pickle MU - 3/29 14:32:03
                                        Africa is the closest thing we have to anarchy - Badird MU - 3/29 14:45:10
                                             That's completely incorrect - pickle MU - 3/29 15:12:51
                              No, if their position is based on using force - pickle MU - 3/29 14:04:42
     RE: List of politicians and how much they sold you out - mizzoumurfkc MU - 3/29 12:49:38
     You don't understand the issue (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:39:33
          Educate me please. Because, these representatives received - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:44:43
               Don't they already have access to this private data? - cnk ATL - 3/29 13:01:17
                    Yes, and companies have a purchase history - pickle MU - 3/29 13:12:41
                         Companies have a purchase history - Badird MU - 3/29 13:32:01
                              What is stopping them now? - cnk ATL - 3/29 13:43:35
                              Ok. So? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 13:42:17
                                   Let me try a different tact here - Badird MU - 3/29 13:45:29
                                        I reject your premise regarding the market - pickle MU - 3/29 13:52:42
                                             But people with pre-existing conditions - Badird MU - 3/29 13:54:16
                                                  Insurance is not health care - pickle MU - 3/29 14:10:10
                                                       Sorry, HC and Ins go hand in hand - Badird MU - 3/29 14:15:57
                                                            Sorry, but they don't (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 15:13:26
                                        RE: Let me try a different tact here - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:47:32
                                             Exactly... govt was forced to intervene - Badird MU - 3/29 13:50:38
                                                  No (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 14:16:27
                                                  really - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:51:45
                                                       Those costs are averaged across all payers - Badird MU - 3/29 13:55:06
                                                            RE: Those costs are averaged across all payers - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:57:39
                                                                 just answer the question... - Badird MU - 3/29 14:03:47
               I'm happy to - pickle MU - 3/29 12:50:05
               Pickle thinks you don't have to enter into a contract with - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:45:49
                    no i don't. In fact, i believe the exact opposite - pickle MU - 3/29 12:50:47
                         A voluntary relationship in which we have no control - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:53:45
                              Negotiate a better contract - pickle MU - 3/29 13:08:50
          Where do you buy internet service? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:41:00
               From an internet provider (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:45:18
                    That internet provider will then sell your data to the - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:50:05
                         Yes. And? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:52:00
                              If you're okay with that? Cool. I just find it odd that - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:59:27
                                   As I said, you don't understand the issue - pickle MU - 3/29 13:07:50
                                        I understand where you're coming from. What if every - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:32:44
                                             What if? Ok, so? - pickle MU - 3/29 13:36:05
                                                  Agreed. The laws currently in place prevent that from - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:38:02
                                                       Yes. I am okay with the government being involved - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:46:52
                                                            "Your" info isn't private (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 15:14:48
                                                       Agreed???? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 13:43:36
                                                       Pretty much every company I have worked with - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:40:48
                                                            I know. I have enough to worry about with signing away - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:43:53
                                                                 If it gets me access - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:45:09
                                                            But your ISP is not held to the same standard - Badird MU - 3/29 13:42:37
                                                                 If there is a potential for 80% market opportunity - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:43:58
                                             so...you don't think - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:33:59
                                                  Now. I am paying more just to keep my data private. It - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 13:36:12
                                                       LOL - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:40:15
                                        And if the board changes those rules, you will leave? - Badird MU - 3/29 13:28:51
                                             It isn't "your" information. - pickle MU - 3/29 13:33:23
                                                  Your personal info being published here... - Badird MU - 3/29 13:38:52
                                                       No, you are mistaken - pickle MU - 3/29 13:46:21
                                                            But you are happy with the rules set in place to prevent - Badird MU - 3/29 13:51:59
                                                                 What's the backpedal? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 15:15:36
                                                                 What does that have to do with the government?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:54:39
                                                                      You see no value in the FCC - Badird MU - 3/29 13:59:08
     I might add, one solution for this: - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 12:31:55
          Solution for what? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:39:53
          So you limit their ability to rape you - Mormad MU - 3/29 12:35:23
               Would appreciate some explanation on that rape thing. - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 12:42:32
                    You assume it's to build a re-election war chest - Mormad MU - 3/29 12:46:58
                         I assume if nothing else, if politician is no longer a - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 12:53:07
     In what manner might one be adversely affected - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 12:30:52
          There are several ways off the top of my head... - Badird MU - 3/29 13:24:26
               Of course its targeted for ads. That happens now - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 16:01:00
               I guess no one has a problem with any of this? - Badird MU - 3/29 13:40:24
          RE: In what manner might one be adversely affected - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:36:07
               Those aren't examples. Its just philosophy.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 15:57:46
               Answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:44:34
          Do you value your privacy? (nm) - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:34:34
     Roy Blunt with one of the biggest donation numbers - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:24:54
     Special interests at it again. - Badird MU - 3/29 12:20:00
          You consistently fall on the wrong side of everything (nm) - pickle MU - 3/29 12:40:54
               In this case the GOP is wrong - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:16:49
                    Lol, no meat - pickle MU - 3/29 13:20:51
                         RE: Lol, no meat - meatiger MU - 3/29 13:24:54
          No. No. The GOP can do no wrong. They would never - Tiger_Claw MU - 3/29 12:22:29
               You will learn Establishment versus the rest(nm) - tman KC - 3/29 12:24:43
                    Did you look at the list? Plenty of anti-establishment - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 12:26:00
                         Still don't get it. I didn't use rep or dem - tman KC - 3/29 12:31:51




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