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That is not how the word was understood and used at the time

Posted on: February 14, 2017 at 13:39:19 CT
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"Regulate", as I told you the other day, means to keep regular, calibrated, and highly functioning; it does not mean to control or restrict. The meaning is further evident in the second amendment. In that case well-regulated means trained and highly functioning

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The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."

1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."

1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."

1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."

1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."

1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

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If the Constitution were a living document - pickle MU - 2/14 12:03:47
     RE: If the Constitution were a living document - 90Tiger MU - 2/14 12:54:00
          You are such a baby (nm) - pickle MU - 2/14 13:02:32
               And this isn't "teaching the constitution" - it's you being - 90Tiger MU - 2/14 13:19:14
                    Poor baby (nm) - pickle MU - 2/14 13:40:13
                         Be sovereign, dude. Be sovereign. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/14 13:41:15
     Who decides what each word means - meatiger MU - 2/14 12:35:41
          Anyone with a functioning brain and who can read (nm) - pickle MU - 2/14 12:45:23
     What makes you think the Constitution is not a living - Spanky KU - 2/14 12:17:15
          Because it was debated over - pickle MU - 2/14 12:22:20
               The Constitution is not a living document because the - DHighlander KC - 2/14 12:48:16
                    No, DH; you're wrong - pickle MU - 2/14 12:59:42
                    He is quite the dumb@ss.... - Spanky KU - 2/14 12:52:46
               How did we get the 11th Amendment? - Spanky KU - 2/14 12:25:46
                    Through the amendment process - pickle MU - 2/14 12:28:31
                         What does it mean, pickle? - Spanky KU - 2/14 12:34:01
                              I told you already - pickle MU - 2/14 12:38:38
                                   That is not the meaning of living document. - DHighlander KC - 2/14 12:53:39
                                        You are 100% incorrect - pickle MU - 2/14 13:01:47
                                             Here is the definition of regulate. What exactly are you - DHighlander KC - 2/14 13:20:34
                                                  That is not how the word was understood and used at the time - pickle MU - 2/14 13:39:19
                                                       so you are suggesting the the government can keep commerce - DHighlander KC - 2/14 14:18:05
                                                            You need to read the whole clause - pickle MU - 2/14 14:38:24
                                   Are all people born in the US citizens per the Constitution? - Spanky KU - 2/14 12:49:59
                                        No (nm) - pickle MU - 2/14 13:00:13
                                             What does the 14th Amendment say? - Spanky KU - 2/14 14:45:02
                                                  RE: What does the 14th Amendment say? - pickle MU - 2/14 15:10:22
     RE: If the Constitution were a living document - MOCO SON MU - 2/14 12:16:29




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