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Where did I say it was....
Posted on: January 5, 2017 at 13:13:21 CT
Spanky
KU
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I am talking about being forced to have a legal name that I didn't select and need to pay money to change
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Parents naming you is theft of your identity!
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:37:28
Why are you so intent on making taxation appear voluntary?(nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/5 11:58:07
Because everything else would unravel if he doesn't (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:05:42
Poor Samuel Clemens. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/5 11:50:19
having a name doesn't subject you to laws and the penalties
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:46:55
The state does not make you a citizen at birth.
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:52:27
Correct; the State CLAIMS you are a citizen at birth
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:07:14
no, the state makes you a citizen and requires, by law
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:54:19
The State doesn't make you a citizen (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:07:49
In their machinations it surely does. I'm not speaking
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 12:22:25
Nope.. it GRANTS you citizenship without going through
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 14:52:39
You are incorrect.
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:59:43
So if my parents hide me, don't go through the state's paper
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 12:02:11
You have to PROVE you were born in the US or
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:10:45
Prove that the claim of citizenship is legitimate
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:15:36
The state doesn't claim it.. YOU do (or your parents do)
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:21:17
No, Spanky. You have it backwards (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:23:24
You need to PROVE you meet the requirements for citizenship
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:30:31
"requirements for citizenship"
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:41:26
No.. 'Requirements for citizenship' means you are ELIGIBLE
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:56:35
You misunderstand
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pickle
MU
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1/5 13:03:06
I am not the one who misunderstands, dipstick
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:12:04
We've been over this, Spanky (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 13:20:12
Yes.. and you still don't get it. Citizenship is a right
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:25:04
Well, if he doesn't have it backwards, and it is up to you
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ummmm
MU
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1/5 12:24:35
I know I'm not (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:27:04
Did you or your parents apply for and receive a SSN?
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:32:10
Well, there goes that angle by Spanky (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/5 12:27:41
Nope... His parents (or he) claimed US citizenship at some
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:34:12
Except that you just said it was his choice to make that
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ummmm
MU
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1/5 12:47:20
No! Your contention is it was FORCED upon him at birth.
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:50:19
So you're agreeing with us
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pickle
MU
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1/5 13:00:15
The state does not force citizenship.. You claim your
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:01:24
I can't renounce something that doesn't exist
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:42:33
It does apply to you. You claimed your citizenship by:
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:59:30
Being born robs Planned Parenthood of their mission (nm)
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Fourth and Long
MU
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1/5 11:45:07
You are free to change your name if you do not like it
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TigerMatt
MU
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1/5 11:43:16
Not for free.... Your legal name is what your parents gave
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:44:17
you do not have a right to exist. your mother is the only
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SuperTone
MU
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1/5 11:46:02
free as in "without threat of punishment nor penalty" -
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:45:46
You are free to change your residence without 'threat of
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:48:30
other than moving away from the land of your birth??? oh
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:50:44
No.. that's a CHOICE, Tigs.... that's a choice.
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:54:47
And someone has a choice to hand a mugger his wallet or not
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:04:04
It does not occur under coersion It occurs under
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:20:37
None of that is taxation (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:24:53
Where did I say it was....
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:13:21
that's like saying you are free to choose to murder
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:58:09
Isn't murder a voluntary act?
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:30:40
no spanky, it's required if I renounce, under penalty of law
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:55:54
No... If you never claim your citizenship, you have nothing
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:11:48
Constitution says you are a citizen at birth. (nm)
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TigerMatt
MU
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1/5 12:29:46
A third hypothetical
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 13:10:43
Another hypothetical:
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:48:55
If you CLAIM it....
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 12:42:19
I'm guessing you're making a feeble attempt at equating
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:41:20
'Their' kids??? They own them? For how long?
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Spanky
KU
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1/5 11:46:51
Straw man (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/5 12:05:08
in your mind, probably the government (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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1/5 11:51:11