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having a name doesn't subject you to laws and the penalties

Posted on: January 5, 2017 at 11:46:55 CT
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they carry - when the state makes you a citizen at birth, you have no choice in now being subject to those laws.
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Parents naming you is theft of your identity! - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:37:28
     Why are you so intent on making taxation appear voluntary?(nm) - ummmm MU - 1/5 11:58:07
          Because everything else would unravel if he doesn't (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:05:42
     Poor Samuel Clemens. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/5 11:50:19
     having a name doesn't subject you to laws and the penalties - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:46:55
          The state does not make you a citizen at birth. - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:52:27
               Correct; the State CLAIMS you are a citizen at birth - pickle MU - 1/5 12:07:14
               no, the state makes you a citizen and requires, by law - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:54:19
                    The State doesn't make you a citizen (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:07:49
                         In their machinations it surely does. I'm not speaking - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:22:25
                              Nope.. it GRANTS you citizenship without going through - Spanky KU - 1/5 14:52:39
                    You are incorrect. - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:59:43
                         So if my parents hide me, don't go through the state's paper - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 12:02:11
                              You have to PROVE you were born in the US or - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:10:45
                                   Prove that the claim of citizenship is legitimate - pickle MU - 1/5 12:15:36
                                        The state doesn't claim it.. YOU do (or your parents do) - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:21:17
                                             No, Spanky. You have it backwards (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:23:24
                                                  You need to PROVE you meet the requirements for citizenship - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:30:31
                                                       "requirements for citizenship" - pickle MU - 1/5 12:41:26
                                                            No.. 'Requirements for citizenship' means you are ELIGIBLE - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:56:35
                                                                 You misunderstand - pickle MU - 1/5 13:03:06
                                                                      I am not the one who misunderstands, dipstick - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:12:04
                                                                           We've been over this, Spanky (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 13:20:12
                                                                                Yes.. and you still don't get it. Citizenship is a right - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:25:04
                                                  Well, if he doesn't have it backwards, and it is up to you - ummmm MU - 1/5 12:24:35
                                                       I know I'm not (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:27:04
                                                            Did you or your parents apply for and receive a SSN? - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:32:10
                                                            Well, there goes that angle by Spanky (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/5 12:27:41
                                                                 Nope... His parents (or he) claimed US citizenship at some - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:34:12
                                                                      Except that you just said it was his choice to make that - ummmm MU - 1/5 12:47:20
                                                                           No! Your contention is it was FORCED upon him at birth. - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:50:19
                                                                                So you're agreeing with us - pickle MU - 1/5 13:00:15
                                                                                     The state does not force citizenship.. You claim your - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:01:24
                                                                      I can't renounce something that doesn't exist - pickle MU - 1/5 12:42:33
                                                                           It does apply to you. You claimed your citizenship by: - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:59:30
     Being born robs Planned Parenthood of their mission (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/5 11:45:07
     You are free to change your name if you do not like it - TigerMatt MU - 1/5 11:43:16
          Not for free.... Your legal name is what your parents gave - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:44:17
               you do not have a right to exist. your mother is the only - SuperTone MU - 1/5 11:46:02
               free as in "without threat of punishment nor penalty" - - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:45:46
                    You are free to change your residence without 'threat of - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:48:30
                         other than moving away from the land of your birth??? oh - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:50:44
                              No.. that's a CHOICE, Tigs.... that's a choice. - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:54:47
                                   And someone has a choice to hand a mugger his wallet or not - pickle MU - 1/5 12:04:04
                                        It does not occur under coersion It occurs under - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:20:37
                                             None of that is taxation (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:24:53
                                                  Where did I say it was.... - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:13:21
                                   that's like saying you are free to choose to murder - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:58:09
                                        Isn't murder a voluntary act? - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:30:40
                                   no spanky, it's required if I renounce, under penalty of law - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:55:54
                                        No... If you never claim your citizenship, you have nothing - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:11:48
                                             Constitution says you are a citizen at birth. (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/5 12:29:46
                                                  A third hypothetical - Spanky KU - 1/5 13:10:43
                                                  Another hypothetical: - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:48:55
                                                  If you CLAIM it.... - Spanky KU - 1/5 12:42:19
     I'm guessing you're making a feeble attempt at equating - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:41:20
          'Their' kids??? They own them? For how long? - Spanky KU - 1/5 11:46:51
               Straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 12:05:08
               in your mind, probably the government (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/5 11:51:11




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