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I wasn't arguing the value of tariffs.I'm pointing out that

Posted on: December 28, 2016 at 10:28:29 CT
90Tiger STL
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it is regulation that drives trump to think tariffs are the answer.

he's wrong, but we're all still missing the bigger issue.

the us govt is 19T in debt and is propping up a standard of living falsely.



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Made in the USA!!! - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:15:43
     All manufacturers play by the same rules and realities... - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 09:50:09
          Oh, and you base that on the dedication Don has shown - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 10:00:17
               He's done a thousand times more good in his life than Obama - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 10:10:39
                    So the cheating and defrauding is OK then. Thanks(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 10:12:54
                         as opposed to engaging in the extortion racket - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:22:18
                         rask, we know you don't value those who create wealth for - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:17:46
                              Good for You. Go Team(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:01:59
                         Obama and Clinton are not the topic here... - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 10:15:48
          Manufacturers in different countries do NOT all play by - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:50:56
               so what? - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:53:27
                    I could care less what they pay someone in a foreign - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:56:24
                         Same here - pickle MU - 12/28 10:09:36
                         then we are in total agreement - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:01:21
                         Then you want the US to continue to pay citizens to not work - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:57:17
                              What? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:10:00
                                   The US govt has a minumum wage, OSHA, EEOC, taxes of - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:13:58
                                        RE: The US govt has a minumum wage, OSHA, EEOC, taxes of - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:14:48
                                             I doubt he will learn anything other than left wing spin... - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 12:38:34
                                        I see your A and B - pickle MU - 12/28 10:16:21
                                             I see your A and B - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 10:16:58
                              you again demonstrate your lack of knowledge - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:03:18
                                   unemployment in this context is created by the minimum - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:10:03
                                        RE: unemployment in this context is created by the minimum - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:10:47
                                        those things are called regulations, and most - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:15:16
                                             well, duh. you think they might have something to do with - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:25:53
                                   I didn't claim trade causes unemployment (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:06:31
                              You act like unemployment is at 15%(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 10:00:30
                                   Unemployment is way higher than 5% and many more - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:02:05
                                        Correct, it's not 4.9% - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 10:04:56
                                             RE: Correct, it's not 4.9% - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:08:19
                                                  RE: Correct, it's not 4.9% - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:20:45
                                                       Right, so can we stop with the 4.9% fantasy altogether? - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:26:26
                    of course, but Mr. Pointy Head wants his cheap - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:54:58
                         your posts are nearly incoherent - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:00:36
                              i'm mocking playhard, good grief. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:02:35
                         I suspect the tariff threat is just that, a threat...i don't - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:59:13
               Could you please be specific? - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 09:52:34
     It does cost more to manufacture in the US - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:43:58
          why? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:53:09
          Bingo! - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 09:51:19
               why does it cost so much to manufacture in the US? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:53:29
                    Stop trying to be coy and see below... - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 09:55:43
          and why does it cost more to manufacture in the US v. say, - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:45:03
               RE: and why does it cost more to manufacture in the US v. say, - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:04:37
                    min wage, osha, eeoc, financial regulations, the massive - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:14:55
               Well, duh...The cost of labor. Why do you think... - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 09:54:26
                    why is labor cost so much higher in the US? there are - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:56:30
                         Standard of living...They don't have multiple cars, multiple - Salty Dog MU - 12/28 10:14:39
                              All of those things are paid for with $19T in debt, well - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:15:38
               the answer is obvious - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:49:03
                    You haven't answered the question - WHY can you hire - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:52:36
                         It's a good thing that most people in this country - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:10:26
     Deregulation of US businesses (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 12/28 09:39:16
          protectionist policy is the opposite of deregulation - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:44:42
               what do you call policy that makes it massively more e - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:47:46
                    goddamn your dumb - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:51:57
          RE: Deregulation of US businesses (nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:42:07
               the subprime crisis was caused by regulations - Ferg STL - 12/28 09:46:18
                    That's only half of it - pickle MU - 12/28 10:11:27
                    And where did the lenders get the credit to lend to these - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:01:30
                    "forcing", so they put a gun to their head?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:50:21
                         not a gun but CRA - Ferg STL - 12/28 10:18:01
                              All laws, acts, etc. have a gun behind them (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:20:03
                         do you know anything about this? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:03:10
                         Yes - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 10:01:26
               that was also the fault of regulations - El-ahrairah KC - 12/28 09:44:08
                    When Fannie buys no down-payment loans - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 10:05:14
     Sounds like a smart businessman - El-ahrairah KC - 12/28 09:38:07
     Inflation is an increase in the money supply - pickle MU - 12/28 09:24:01
          Inflation is an increase in the price index nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/28 09:50:08
               Incorrect. It's an increase in the money supply (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:01:30
               No, it is not. - ummmm MU - 12/28 09:54:32
                    The Austrian redefintion is the bastardized version...an - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/28 10:00:42
                         It's the classical definition - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:02:25
          So a tshirt made overseas that currently costs $40 gets a - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:31:39
               You either don't buy it, or you buy a different shirt. - ummmm MU - 12/28 09:44:46
               Purchasing power refers to monetary value - pickle MU - 12/28 09:43:09
               RE: So a tshirt made overseas that currently costs $40 gets a - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:34:05
               you don't buy it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:33:25
                    I should be more patriotic and buy the one made in - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:37:00
                         The first thing you should do - pickle MU - 12/28 09:45:17
                         speak for yourself. You whine about US companies paying - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:41:59
                              You're missing the point, nobody in the US is going to work - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:45:00
                                   I'm not missing any point here. You're ignoring every - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:50:25
                                        I don't want a higher minimum wage, i think we all - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:55:02
                                             unemployment isn't under 5% and why would someone - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:58:38
          he has no idea what you're talking about (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:26:25
     slaves make wages? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:21:02
     the immigration policy of Trump goes completely against - ashtray UF - 12/28 09:17:08
          how is that, exactly? be specific. If you think the US - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:23:31
               correct - ashtray UF - 12/28 09:47:24
                    it's a pipe dream as long as we have minimum wages, osha, - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:00:44
                         because the ignorant citizens of this country who vote - ashtray UF - 12/28 10:20:28
                              true dat, bro (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:30:36
          I suspect it was nothing but a campaign slogan - playhard NWMSU - 12/28 09:20:03
               the US is propping up your ability to buy cheap goods from - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:33:04
               No (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 09:29:51
               but you're ok with the huge tariffs other countries put on - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:21:50
                    Who in your opinion ultimatley pays for tarrifs?(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 12/28 09:25:05
                         oh, depends on the country. If the govt is subsidizing an - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:29:13
                              Your first try is the correct answer(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 12/28 09:32:07
                                   yes, if that is the only factor, of course (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:33:53
                                        Can you provide an example of how a tarrif doesn't raise - Mo Texan MU - 12/28 09:38:01
                                             sure - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:44:19
                                                  That may or may not be a true theory. That said his - Mo Texan MU - 12/28 10:18:05
                                                       I wasn't arguing the value of tariffs.I'm pointing out that - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 10:28:29
                              The consumer (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 09:30:52
                         consumers (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/28 09:26:06




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