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European socialism is based on Marxist ideals. The

Posted on: November 28, 2016 at 23:04:56 CT
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socialism that popped out of the French Revolution rejected state control of production.
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What is funny is 30 plus percent of libs actually support - tman KC - 11/28 21:15:22
     You know what the leftist 20 percenters always say... - MU Dylan MU - 11/28 23:12:29
     What communist are we talking about? And socialists - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:23:01
          I laugh at your absurd claim in the second sentence. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/28 22:41:50
               You mean the media wet themselves. Of course you - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:59:31
                    Falsely? No, it's been proven the media is in bed w/ Dems. (nm) - Cubicle Clown USA - 11/29 06:54:44
          Socialists are peeps who know they cannot implement their - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 21:48:40
               Tell me again how Norway is progressing toward their - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:52:07
                    Norway will never get there. Small country of 5 million, - jmlppx MU - 11/28 22:04:28
                         Tell me about North Korea..... - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:12:09
                              RE: Tell me about North Korea..... - jmlppx MU - 11/28 22:24:22
                                   The Constituion would not have to be altered to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:30:11
                                        RE: The Constituion would not have to be altered to - jmlppx MU - 11/28 22:38:05
                                             I've been to Canada, and it is nice to visit. In Summer. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:39:05
                                                  That's the deal. Gotta have a good woman up there.(nm) - jmlppx MU - 11/28 22:40:08
                                                       Amen. And good beer. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:00:00
                                        Well, it's certainly getting better yet...ObamaCare repeal - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:31:39
                                             I wouldn't call taking health care away from 22 million - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:34:28
                                                  That's a straw man - pickle MU - 11/29 06:52:40
                                                  Single payer of course is just a stepping stone to NO PAYER - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:44:19
                                                       Interesting. Single payer would be far cheaper overall than - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:01:24
                                                            I'm weird, I don't get all sweaty thinking about bureaucrati - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 23:03:47
                                                                 You actually bought into the corporate rhetoric. How - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:04:42
                                                                      Go suck on your Georgia guidestones. Your New World Order - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 23:10:30
                                                                           Oh, you fell for it bad. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:16:55
                                                                                That ObamaCare trash is going to be repealed. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 23:20:53
                              LOL! Yep, I can't even begin to imagine what those - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:23:03
                              Call it what it is.. democratic socialism, not a social - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:17:56
                    Norway isnt socialist. They have not nationalized the means - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 21:58:29
                         Norway has a very large percentage of national control - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:02:41
                              So you are admitting they still havent nationalized the mean - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:08:33
                                   That's not what I said at all, but you already know that. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:12:55
                                        Has Norway nationalized the means of production or not? - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:18:49
                                             Yes, to a very large degree. You'll never get 100% - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:21:18
                                                  Less than 1% of Soviet workers were in private enterprise, a - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:26:38
                                                       It is a slippery slope. Less government is less filling - jmlppx MU - 11/28 22:55:43
                                                       USSR was totalitarian, and not socialist. Maybe it was - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:30:58
                                                            Socialism isnt far from totalitarianism. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:54:50
                                                                 Quite the opposite, actually. It benefits the needs of - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:02:53
                                                                      Right, it strips individual liberty. The path to - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 23:06:01
                                                                           Nice rhetoric, but your idea doesn't hold up in - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:16:29
                                                                                Your entire problem is the crazy belief the government can - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 23:47:05
                                                                      And that differs how?(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 23:03:50
               All a mattress of degree but same basic belief(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 21:49:28
                    I believe you are talking the Sleep Number Mattress, it is - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:24:15
                         Haha. No answer, which from you is depressing - tman KC - 11/28 22:28:15
                              Sorry, I'm busy working on a special space transport so - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:39:31
                                   Ok pickle(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 22:51:30
                                        MMMoG, he would not give you that many words - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 22:59:34
                                             But you are acting like him. Just be brief next time - tman KC - 11/28 23:00:46
                                                  You are debating socialism vs. communism? - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 23:06:35
                                                       Actually I am wondering why you are acting pickle esk - tman KC - 11/28 23:24:58
                                                            Honestly, you offered 'mattress of degree'. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/28 23:29:01
                                                                 Really you are hung up on a spell check. You are a liberal - tman KC - 11/28 23:32:31
                              Maybe he is just "going to the mattresses", a tribute to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:36:26
                                   He would be a leader you would support - tman KC - 11/28 22:52:31
                                        No, I'm not for totalitarians or warlords. But it was a - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 23:03:48
                                             Ok. You would support (nm) - tman KC - 11/28 23:04:41
                    Yes, Marx believed communism to be the end state of - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 21:50:45
          that belief isn't common on this board. You're just all pro - 90Tiger MU - 11/28 21:46:07
               I voted for Bernie. I'm not an HRC fan. Quit - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:58:12
                    RE: I voted for Bernie. I'm not an HRC fan. Quit - 90Tiger MU - 11/29 09:56:39
                    That is democratic socialism.. a bastardized version of - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:12:14
                         No, North Korea and Venezuela are bastardized "versions" - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:13:35
                              Good god, you have no idea what socialism means. You just - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:20:54
                                   Marx believed in communism. He thought that socialism was - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:26:32
          Why don't you educate us on the difference between - tman KC - 11/28 21:31:55
               I've been trying for 5+ years. I can't help you if you - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:59:20
                    Bern is an admitted socialist. Is he incorrect?(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 22:14:52
                         Socialist? Yes, I'll stipulate to that. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:16:07
                              So you don't see socialism and communism on same path?(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 22:20:14
                                   Marx might have believed that, but no, it is not - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:32:49
                                        Tell me where the difference is and how you stop - tman KC - 11/28 22:53:26
                                   He refuses to acknowledge the founders of socialism believed - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 22:22:32
                                        Who are the founders of socialsim? Hint: Marx is not the - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:35:02
                                             European socialism is based on Marxist ideals. The - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 23:04:56
                                             Explain the difference and how to stop one from becoming - tman KC - 11/28 22:54:27
                                        Won't study history. Too bad(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 22:23:12
                                             Yes, it's too bad you won't study history. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:35:27
                                                  Give me a true socalist country you want us to become(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 22:50:54
          Modern day liberals are authoritarian. They appropriated - TigerMatt STL - 11/28 21:30:07
               Yes, Obama has tended to be authoritarian for sure. (nm) - JeffB MU - 11/28 21:45:39
          Don't confuse the conservatives with facts(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 11/28 21:27:04
               Why don't you relate it to the US(nm) - tman KC - 11/28 21:32:41




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