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'Obama was (not) a paragon of verity.' Is a gross understate

Posted on: November 28, 2016 at 21:08:56 CT
JeffB MU
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He was in fact a bald faced liar and he had numerous broken campaign promises, many of which he clearly had no intention of keeping.

Not criticizing him for those broken campaign promises but hammering Trump before he is even in office for campaign promises you assume he will break seems to point to something of a double standard, though, no?

btw, for the record I was no fan of Trump and was trying to convince people to do what they could to stop him in the primaries. But once it came down to a choice between Hillary or Trump I think the clear choice was Trump. He was and is flawed. It is a roll of the dice with him. He could be horrible, or he could turn out to be reasonably good. Hillary, on the other hand, isn't all that much of a gamble. We know what we would get with her and it would be somewhere between terrible and horrible.

Edited by JeffB at 21:16:28 on 11/28/16
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     Google it. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:19:18
          Google says it is still open (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:20:17
               Why are you trying to reason with a Rabid dog ? - Uncle Fester USMC - 11/28 20:23:12
                    I've had my rabies shots, already! - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:28:44
               Question answered. Was that so hard? nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:22:49
                    Okay, but here's something I can't Google - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:24:02
                         Your question has a false premise. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:29:05
                              lol, a false premise you can't name? hilarious (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/28 21:47:05
                                   It's very apparent, I shouldn't have to name it. There's - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:04:30
                              Do you have any links to posts you made complaining - JeffB MU - 11/28 20:35:41
                                   I have made some posts in the past. I was particularly - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:46:15
                                        If you look at the video I linked to you will see that he - JeffB MU - 11/28 20:57:28
                                             I've never argued that Obama was a paragon of verity. - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:02:05
                                                  he was and remains a paragon of dishonesty (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/28 21:47:52
                                                  'Obama was (not) a paragon of verity.' Is a gross understate - JeffB MU - 11/28 21:08:56
                                                       And yet, it would be a far more gross understatement to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:15:18
                                                            He may turn out to be a worse liar than Clinton or Obama, - JeffB MU - 11/28 21:24:27
                                                                 He already is a much worse liar - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:44:51
                                        So, the answer to JeffB's question is "no" (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:47:18
                                             The answer is yes, but I'm not going back in time to - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:49:44
                                                  The question is "do you have any links" - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:52:18
                                                       The answer is yes, I have links, but I'm not - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:55:19
                                                            Sure you do. - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:59:24
                                                                 Exactly. I'm not required to post evidence that will be - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:04:31
                                                                      You're not required to do anything. - ummmm MU - 11/28 21:05:50
                                                                           I don't really care what you think about that. I'm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:08:44
                                                                                All you have to say is this: - ummmm MU - 11/28 21:13:13
                                                                                     Actually, I'll say it like this: - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:19:40
                                                                                          You almost had a non r v. d post, but you had to add that - ummmm MU - 11/28 21:26:49
                                                                                               The difference is not important whether it was a lie - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:50:45
                                                                                                    Lol (nm) - pickle MU - 11/29 06:13:34
                              That being? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:33:30
                                   How many premises does your question have? I - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:34:47
                                        None. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:35:52
                                             I thought you were smarter than that. Try again, if you wish - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:42:29
                                                  My question has no premises. - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:43:27
                                                       Are you still beating your wife? It's a yes or no - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:47:53
                                                            That's not a premise. - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:50:33
                                                                 OK, wise guy. It's a question BASED on a false - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 20:54:47
                                                                      First of all, premises and assumptions are not the same - ummmm MU - 11/28 20:58:35
                                                                           Read 1b. - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:03:42
                                                                                That doesn't change anything. The dictionary isn't a logic - ummmm MU - 11/28 21:04:50
                                                                                     I'm done with you. And yes, I choose to ignore things - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 21:10:15
                                                                                          such a sorry sack you've become - ummmm undressed - 90Tiger MU - 11/28 21:50:40
                                                                                               I'm not surprised you believe that. nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/28 22:03:43
                                                                                          Done with me? - ummmm MU - 11/28 21:13:58




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