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I understand that is what happened, but I would not call

Posted on: November 24, 2016 at 09:58:29 CT
ummmm MU
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that "consent of the governed".

I see the allure of using that phrase as it connotes a sense of voluntaryism (the thing everyone makes fun of pickle for supporting). But that phrase simply does not fit.

Yes, Trump won the election under the rules that form and govern the election. But, he does not have the consent of the governed. He doesn't have my consent, and yet, I'll be governed by him.

Edited by ummmm at 09:58:44 on 11/24/16
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Thankful, as always, for many things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 09:48:34
     It's difficult to soar with the eagles... - Salty Dog MU - 11/24 10:00:01
     1. Gvmt doesn't exist by consent - pickle MU - 11/24 09:54:35
          Sure thing, Rainman(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/24 10:04:00
     19% (and probably less) of the United States population - ummmm MU - 11/24 09:52:59
          People were asked, people made their choice to participate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 09:56:26
               if you chose not to vote you gave your implied consent to - DHighlander KC - 11/24 10:31:00
                    It is simply unbelievable you are in education (nm) - pickle MU - 11/24 10:35:32
                         it is unbelievable that you claim to be educated. An - DHighlander KC - 11/24 10:59:04
                              Not voting is expressing a wish - pickle MU - 11/24 11:04:10
                                   You are a complete and total idiot! The system was created - DHighlander KC - 11/24 11:23:55
                                        It is impossible to have a discussion with you - pickle MU - 11/24 11:33:56
                                             You claim that I believe in myths and then follow it up with - DHighlander KC - 11/24 12:13:32
                                                  "Please explain how less than 1% of the people - pickle MU - 11/24 12:32:20
               A conclusion void of logic (nm) - pickle MU - 11/24 09:59:49
                    Because of spirit of the holiday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:00:48
                         4Tigs - pickle MU - 11/24 10:09:21
                              So much is funny about that post - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:11:10
               Yep(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 11/24 09:58:51
               I understand that is what happened, but I would not call - ummmm MU - 11/24 09:58:29
                    You are making the consent of the govenened a personal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:02:50
                         If your family had 5 people, and 1 person decided where to - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:05:42
                              I fail to see the value of you "winning" that point. - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:54:57
                              We do not force people to go to the polls - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:09:47
                                   Exactly the same as when three people in the family say they - DHighlander KC - 11/24 10:45:41
                                   "Their decision not to is then consent to the will of those - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:15:45
                                        Nonsensical or not, it is unavoidable reality. You - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:57:52
                                             You're lost now. We aren't talking about reality - ummmm MU - 11/24 12:15:21
                                        The consent of the governed was never intended to mean - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:18:48
                                             You've just contradicted yourself - pickle MU - 11/24 10:27:00
                                             1/5th of the governed spoke. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:23:21
                                   That is simply incorrect - pickle MU - 11/24 10:12:04
          Your solution to that would be.....?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 09:53:56
               You know there is no wokable answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 09:57:13
                    Yes, there is. Decentralization of power. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:02:45
                         Decentralizing power does not change the foundational - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:04:36
                              It would lessen the pervasive effect of single government - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:08:06
                                   So your *****ing isn't about the system - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:15:39
                                        Yes, which is what we should all strive for. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:17:33
                                             On that I absolutely agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:20:21
                                                  Yet all of that was willfully thrown aside - pickle MU - 11/24 10:55:57
                                                  As would, I hope at least most people, who - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:47:18
                              Just as you cling to myths of a sky god - pickle MU - 11/24 10:07:28
                                   I am going to leave you now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:16:49
                                        Riiiight - pickle MU - 11/24 10:54:06
               Decentralization of power. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/24 09:54:27
                    To...?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 09:55:41
                         Local areas and to individuals. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/24 09:56:10
                              And the "local areas" would not become.....government?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:06:27
                                   Read the rest of my posts in this thread. I've answered - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:09:17
                                        But, they lack any specifics at all as to how it works. - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:48:42
                              But what if not 100% consent to the local area? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 09:57:59
                                   Yes, that would be a problem. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:00:52
                                        Control the change? CONTROL? Wait a minute. I - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:07:47
                                             It is an incremental process of decentralization, GAT - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:13:41
                                                  And if everyone were responsible, and "law" abiding, - GA Tiger MU - 11/24 10:52:08
                                                       Non-sequitur (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/24 12:20:57
                                        So your issue isn't really about consent - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:07:38
                                             My issue is certainly about consent. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:11:00
                                                  Thank you for the productive dialog - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/24 10:22:36
                                                       Happy Thanksgiving to you too. - ummmm MU - 11/24 10:29:17




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