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Posted on: September 25, 2016 at 11:54:34 CT
o'lineydisciple MU
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And he *had* to salvage those relationships that Haith started because he wasn't actively recruiting division 1 talent. Which is sort of the point about hiring someone who isn't in Division 1 to begin with. You can put KA in a huddle or in practice with great D1 talent and he'll be on par with the good D1 coaches, perhaps.

Hiring someone without pre-existing high level recruiting contacts & relationships means KA is (was) a lot more constrained from the outset.

KA did recruit Teki, I think he was a Fulford guy (who KA hired).

At the end of the day though, isn't the head coach responsible for the guys he brings in to the program?

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Lots of people say - haeffb MU - 9/24 06:11:18
     My son actually played basketball at the MIAA level and I - cefoo MU - 9/26 08:42:18
          funny how his teams at UCM were well coached - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/26 16:10:50
          I will take your word - haeffb MU - 9/26 16:03:15
          Sure cefood. You are a reliable source - Mr. Orange SU - 9/26 16:02:17
     I don't disagree with your point, and I'm not sure why or - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:23:38
          I would hope we would have one - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:27:39
               I guess that's possible, but I'm hoping that our new coach - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:30:30
                    Nope - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:36:06
                         Maybe not, but let me hope. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:41:13
                              If I am not allowed to use all the resources at my disposal - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 09:19:05
                                   That's the way it should be worded, yes.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 09:50:12
     9 PHUCKING WINS NM - Butman KC - 9/26 07:45:04
          RE: 9 PHUCKING WINS - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 07:58:27
               that was the game if he was any sort of coach - Butman KC - 9/26 08:06:28
                    He didn't have to do anything too great. But instead of - StaleyTiger MU - 9/26 08:17:27
     "Mizzou fan base" is where you went wrong(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/25 13:32:12
          ^^^ KA over program, ensuring there won't be a fan base ^^ (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/26 10:17:47
     Who cares? I just know what his MU teams have done. Isn't - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 12:25:36
          Teetee be nice(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/26 10:08:14
          I care - it's why I asked the question - haeffb MU - 9/25 12:56:16
               His UCM teams were always very prepared - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/25 16:50:53
                    " that is what opposing coaches and UCM fans have always - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:14:04
               those results have zero bearing on MU. Just find out - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 16:46:46
               Saw rambling. Didn't see a question. - DollarSigns MU - 9/25 13:52:13
               I for one, don't give a rat's azz about D-2 basketball. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 9/25 12:59:56
     "accepted fact" you say... - tigerdb MU - 9/24 23:25:02
     KA proved himself to be a good DII coach - DollarSigns MU - 9/24 21:15:15
     they've always been good, but even better when KA was - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:08:25
          They were bad when KA was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 21:12:18
               they had won a title before and had several very good - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:15:01
                    Sunvold had a good run - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 21:18:01
                         historically good coaches - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:21:11
     It is basic team chemistry ignorance when people say talent - BurgTiger MU - 9/24 14:31:41
          The problem with the toxic culture was partially brought - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:54:11
               Get lost(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/24 18:54:56
               He salvaged those recruits, for the most part. Haith - Diamond Dave MU - 9/24 16:57:23
                    yes, that's correct - o'lineydisciple MU - 9/25 11:54:34
                    Allen, Isabel, Payne,were all total busts - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 17:35:24
                         I would have brought in some Missouri farm boys too, but KA - Uncle John MU - 9/24 18:57:07
                         Wrights efficiency both years was bad - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:38:53
                    Kind of what happens when Mizzou hired a guy that - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:07:54
     KA had a knack for convincing borderline D1 kids to drop - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/24 14:31:33
          KA still has the knack of recruiting borderline D1 kids.(nm) - 68-69ron MU - 9/24 18:20:28
               Who's the borderline D1 player? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 19:03:15
                    having only several D1 offers actually means you're - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 12:27:32
                         Geist, CVL and Phillips are the only players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/25 12:40:49
          Dillon Deck went to Jewell. Not a drop down. - Diamond Dave MU - 9/24 16:53:33
          Explains why he's still doing that. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 9/24 16:38:36
     I keep hearing how - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 14:07:49
          You can count the players - haeffb MU - 9/24 17:41:26
          At least they aren't raping kids like at Indiana. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/24 14:27:01
               Oh yeah good call - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:42:52
          The logic facility at your school never opened its doors - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 14:25:25
          Only 2 of those transfers had a season at Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 14:14:23
               in most cases, coaches aren't getting hired into major cbb - tigerdb MU - 9/24 15:21:38
                    There was no talent. J3 had potential but thats it - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 15:57:23
                         Potential - that's kind - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:55:04
                              Again... - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 17:32:41
                    The talent under performed - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 15:50:56
                         The first year the "talent" started the year without having - tigersfan MU - 9/24 17:09:32
                              Both happened coach learning on the job - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:18:47
                                   Not really unexpected to have younger players struggle - tigersfan MU - 9/24 17:40:39
                                        He has rebuilt a team - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:46:52
               I don't buy the fact that - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 14:17:02
                    Im not sure you can read this, but here goes... - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 14:26:37
                    Build around yes, ready to win no - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 14:23:05
                         Agree with this - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:44:16
     RE: Lots of people say - Ragarm MU - 9/24 11:20:52
     They were senior-led and had a former P5 player on the - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 09:18:26
          What is your basis for - haeffb MU - 9/24 13:24:20
               It's a composite idea from looking at their roster, what - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 15:57:41
                    So you made it up. Thanks. (nm) - haeffb MU - 9/24 17:26:31
                         No. I listed their top 3 players and what their accolades - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 19:37:51
                              You said as good or better than the competition - haeffb MU - 9/24 20:15:26
                              Top level D2 teams are better than a bunch of lower tier - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 19:42:08
                    He had more talented teams - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 16:44:07
               The P5 transfer Robinson averaged - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 13:49:38
                    He wasn't some great P5 player transferring. But a P5 player - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 16:00:21
                         Yea, kind of like Payne dropping down - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 16:42:43
          Epps was the only FR/SO who played any meaningful - Diamond Dave MU - 9/24 10:41:27
          CMSU beat Metro State which had a former D1 (BYU) player(nm) - kctgrs MU - 9/24 10:12:09
               I'm sure they beat a few former D1 players. - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 16:04:31
                    talent is funny to look at - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:50:30
          So this means he was a good recruiter then? - Moball2play SWT - 9/24 09:59:38
               Look at the NC roster. Pretty much all the guys that - Diamond Dave MU - 9/24 10:43:25
                    That's recruiting in D2.. - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 11:09:00
                    That's recruiting, Mizzou has had a lot of very good - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 11:02:10
                         Of course, but at D1 you cant rely solely on transfers.. - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 11:10:03
                              Solely no, but there are plenty of top 25 level - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 11:48:54
          Every year? Ok einstein - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 09:22:13
     What are your thoughts on Steve Hesser? - tigerdb MU - 9/24 07:45:54
          No, I am not. I didn't make the claim - haeffb MU - 9/24 08:10:56
     UCM and Kim were the only D2 school with D1 transfers! - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 06:53:40




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