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Posted on: September 24, 2016 at 06:11:18 CT

haeffb MU

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CKA's teams at UCM were just more talented than other DII teams and that's why he went to four final fours and won a National Championship.

I've never seen any explanation, evidence or analysis that shows this is true. It seems to just be an accepted fact among a certain segment of the Mizzou fan base with no basis in reality.

Please explain why this message is being reported.

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Lots of people say - haeffb MU - 9/24 06:11:18

My son actually played basketball at the MIAA level and I - cefoo MU - 9/26 08:42:18

funny how his teams at UCM were well coached - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/26 16:10:50

I will take your word - haeffb MU - 9/26 16:03:15

Sure cefood. You are a reliable source - Mr. Orange SU - 9/26 16:02:17

I don't disagree with your point, and I'm not sure why or - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:23:38

I would hope we would have one - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:27:39

I guess that's possible, but I'm hoping that our new coach - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:30:30

Nope - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:36:06

Maybe not, but let me hope. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 08:41:13

If I am not allowed to use all the resources at my disposal - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 09:19:05

That's the way it should be worded, yes.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 9/26 09:50:12

9 PHUCKING WINS NM - Butman KC - 9/26 07:45:04

RE: 9 PHUCKING WINS - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 07:58:27

that was the game if he was any sort of coach - Butman KC - 9/26 08:06:28

He didn't have to do anything too great. But instead of - StaleyTiger MU - 9/26 08:17:27

"Mizzou fan base" is where you went wrong(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/25 13:32:12

^^^ KA over program, ensuring there won't be a fan base ^^ (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/26 10:17:47

Who cares? I just know what his MU teams have done. Isn't - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 12:25:36

Teetee be nice(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 9/26 10:08:14

I care - it's why I asked the question - haeffb MU - 9/25 12:56:16

His UCM teams were always very prepared - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/25 16:50:53

" that is what opposing coaches and UCM fans have always - Rabbit Test MU - 9/26 08:14:04

those results have zero bearing on MU. Just find out - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 16:46:46

Saw rambling. Didn't see a question. - DollarSigns MU - 9/25 13:52:13

I for one, don't give a rat's azz about D-2 basketball. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 9/25 12:59:56

"accepted fact" you say... - tigerdb MU - 9/24 23:25:02

KA proved himself to be a good DII coach - DollarSigns MU - 9/24 21:15:15

they've always been good, but even better when KA was - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:08:25

They were bad when KA was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 21:12:18

they had won a title before and had several very good - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:15:01

Sunvold had a good run - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 21:18:01

historically good coaches - Jeff85 MU - 9/24 21:21:11

It is basic team chemistry ignorance when people say talent - BurgTiger MU - 9/24 14:31:41

The problem with the toxic culture was partially brought - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:54:11

Get lost(nm) - Uncle John MU

- 9/24 18:54:56

He salvaged those recruits, for the most part. Haith - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/24 16:57:23

yes, that's correct - o'lineydisciple MU - 9/25 11:54:34

Allen, Isabel, Payne,were all total busts - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 17:35:24

I would have brought in some Missouri farm boys too, but KA - Uncle John MU

- 9/24 18:57:07

Wrights efficiency both years was bad - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:38:53

Kind of what happens when Mizzou hired a guy that - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:07:54

KA had a knack for convincing borderline D1 kids to drop - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/24 14:31:33

KA still has the knack of recruiting borderline D1 kids.(nm) - 68-69ron MU - 9/24 18:20:28

Who's the borderline D1 player? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 19:03:15

having only several D1 offers actually means you're - 90Tiger MU - 9/25 12:27:32

Geist, CVL and Phillips are the only players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/25 12:40:49

Dillon Deck went to Jewell. Not a drop down. - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/24 16:53:33

Explains why he's still doing that. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 9/24 16:38:36

I keep hearing how - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 14:07:49

You can count the players - haeffb MU - 9/24 17:41:26

At least they aren't raping kids like at Indiana. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 9/24 14:27:01

Oh yeah good call - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:42:52

The logic facility at your school never opened its doors - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 14:25:25

Only 2 of those transfers had a season at Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 14:14:23

in most cases, coaches aren't getting hired into major cbb - tigerdb MU - 9/24 15:21:38

There was no talent. J3 had potential but thats it - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 15:57:23

Potential - that's kind - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:55:04

Again... - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 17:32:41

The talent under performed - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 15:50:56

The first year the "talent" started the year without having - tigersfan MU - 9/24 17:09:32

Both happened coach learning on the job - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:18:47

Not really unexpected to have younger players struggle - tigersfan MU - 9/24 17:40:39

He has rebuilt a team - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:46:52

I don't buy the fact that - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 14:17:02

Im not sure you can read this, but here goes... - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 14:26:37

Build around yes, ready to win no - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 14:23:05

Agree with this - Hoosier Daddy1 IU - 9/24 16:44:16

RE: Lots of people say - Ragarm MU - 9/24 11:20:52

They were senior-led and had a former P5 player on the - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 09:18:26

What is your basis for - haeffb MU - 9/24 13:24:20

It's a composite idea from looking at their roster, what - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 15:57:41

So you made it up. Thanks. (nm) - haeffb MU - 9/24 17:26:31

No. I listed their top 3 players and what their accolades - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 19:37:51

You said as good or better than the competition - haeffb MU - 9/24 20:15:26

Top level D2 teams are better than a bunch of lower tier - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 19:42:08

He had more talented teams - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 16:44:07

The P5 transfer Robinson averaged - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 13:49:38

He wasn't some great P5 player transferring. But a P5 player - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 16:00:21

Yea, kind of like Payne dropping down - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 16:42:43

Epps was the only FR/SO who played any meaningful - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/24 10:41:27

CMSU beat Metro State which had a former D1 (BYU) player(nm) - kctgrs MU - 9/24 10:12:09

I'm sure they beat a few former D1 players. - StaleyTiger MU - 9/24 16:04:31

talent is funny to look at - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 17:50:30

So this means he was a good recruiter then? - Moball2play SWT - 9/24 09:59:38

Look at the NC roster. Pretty much all the guys that - Diamond Dave MU

- 9/24 10:43:25

That's recruiting in D2.. - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 11:09:00

That's recruiting, Mizzou has had a lot of very good - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 11:02:10

Of course, but at D1 you cant rely solely on transfers.. - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 11:10:03

Solely no, but there are plenty of top 25 level - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/24 11:48:54

Every year? Ok einstein - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 09:22:13

What are your thoughts on Steve Hesser? - tigerdb MU - 9/24 07:45:54

No, I am not. I didn't make the claim - haeffb MU - 9/24 08:10:56

UCM and Kim were the only D2 school with D1 transfers! - Mr. Orange SU - 9/24 06:53:40

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