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I can certainly empathize with your situation and that of

Posted on: September 20, 2016 at 14:11:47 CT
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your friend, even though I have not personally had to deal with that, at least with any of my own children, BUT, the bottom line here is that we cannot change what is true regardless of how much we might wish it were not so.

In this case your son and your friend's unborn child are and have been human beings since they were first conceived. Either of you might wish that they were not retarded or disabled and either/both of you might wish that your wife had not conceived them, but neither of you can change either of those facts, those objective truths.

Having an abortion will not take you back in time and unconceive the child. In both cases you and your friend and your wives had become parents once again... abortion does not change that. All abortion does is to deliberately, perhaps brutally kill your unborn retarded &/or disabled child.

Some parents do not find out that their child is disabled or retarded until he or she is born. Would you have the same attitude of your friend decided to kill his child after he took him/her home from the hospital? What if he tried his best but later on just felt he could not cope? Should he have the right to choose to kill his child at age 8 or 10 or whatever?

The Spartans, of course, left disabled or deformed children on the sides of mountains to be devoured by wild beasts. Peter Singer, head of the ethics department at Princeton, is an outspoken advocate of a right to kill newborns even weeks after birth.

Do you feel that parents should have that right? If not, why does the young child's place of residence determine whether or not his/her parents have a right to deliberately kill him/her?
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