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No.. a claim is a claim. A fact is a fact.

Posted on: September 9, 2016 at 11:18:17 CT

Spanky KU

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A claim is not a fact until it has been substantiated... it them becomes a fact and not a claim.

Claim
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an assertion of the truth of something, typically one that is disputed or in doubt.

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Trump's Moral Compass - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 08:37:46

I'm wondering about your moral compass...if you support - Logan BAMA - 9/9 10:43:18

Trump is a Nixonian realist - Ted Agnew UM - 9/9 09:02:04

Nixonian realism validated Red China after the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/9 09:07:35

Red China was played vs USSR by Nixon who understood - Ted Agnew UM - 9/9 09:38:14

People in China still live under Communism but - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/9 11:01:08

Yes.. he was pragmatic - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:40:10

Bill and Hillary are personally responsible for the massive - hefeweizen MU

- 9/9 09:08:58

I don't disagree with that at all. It has been one big - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/9 09:11:18

She was on the board of Wal Mart at the time the company - hefeweizen MU

- 9/9 09:14:05

RE: Russia Has Not Shown To Be Trustworthy - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:07:07

The same libs who laughed at Romney for calling Russia - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:04:07

Point of order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 08:59:37

RE: That's The Trump Campaign's Narrative - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:04:06

You are wrong - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:23:46

RE: I'm Only Wrong If - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:28:10

Then look at it from the results of the litigation - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:29:06

RE: Let's Do That - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:40:33

Excessive? He has had MILLIONS of contracts - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:50:06

So once again, the facts are that he has won nearly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:42:36

RE: I Prefer A Businessman - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:49:31

That is a completely separate issue - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:50:52

RE: I Don't Duck Issues - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:00:26

You are using this story to call him immoral - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 10:04:30

RE: No I'm Calling Him Immoral - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:07:29

You started the thread and linked the story - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 10:09:29

RE: And I Stand By My Opinion - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:13:38

You linked a story you later admitted did not contain facts - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 10:15:53

RE: I Didn't Say There Weren't Facts Though - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:26:06

You don't 'know for a fact" that the staffers were led to - Spanky KU - 9/9 10:48:43

RE: Not All Claims Are Facts - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:18:11

They might not have been paid because they were volunteers - Spanky KU - 9/9 11:24:22

RE: Usually Volunteers Know When They Are Unpaid - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 13:25:13

RE: A Cliam Is A Fact - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:58:14

No.. a claim is a claim. A fact is a fact. - Spanky KU - 9/9 11:18:17

RE: Already Corrected That - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:54:00

RE: I Linked The Story Because - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:20:23

I prefer suppliers who live up to the contract - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:50:48

I prefer to avoid lawsuits to be quite honest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:52:48

I have a contract.. that eliminates nearly all disputes - Spanky KU - 9/9 09:58:02

So you determine truth is what you wish to believe is truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:05:11

RE: I Look At Patterns of Behavior - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:08:22

I believe someone may have led them to believe it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:11:36

RE: Fair Enough - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:30:12

You are right - we don't know the story here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:40:18

RE: I Can Judge A Person's Morals - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:41:44

I have never claimed Trump is a saint - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/9 09:49:55

RE: Go Back To My Original Post - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:11:06

You have to admit that both Obama and Hillary have no - JeffB MU

- 9/9 08:53:24

RE: So Trump Meets That Standard? - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 08:59:15

Obama and Hillary are both adamantly pushing government - JeffB MU

- 9/9 09:30:15

RE:You're Mainly Looking At One Issue - Abortion - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:48:20

That's like saying that the Holocaust is only one issue. - JeffB MU

- 9/9 10:26:49

RE: Jews Would Find That Comparison Offensive - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:29:02

I think your analogy re Carson & Obamacare is far off. I - JeffB MU

- 9/9 10:49:07

Soetoro has cemented his spot as the worst Prez ever - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 08:42:17

Always good to change the subject - Webbster MU - 9/9 09:26:03

Not according to the experts, though (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 08:58:37

incorrect(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:04:01

The experts have not placed him in the middle of the pack? - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:08:10

Credible experts have him as the worst or in the top 3 worst - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:13:11

Oh yeah, post that (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:14:53

RE: Oh yeah, post that (nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:17:46

How am I supposed to know who you find to be credible? (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:20:01

RE Cite Your Evidence - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:04:48

Do your own research. It's a consensus among - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:07:10

RE: Define Credible - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:10:21

You can definitely judge a presidency while it is happening(nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:12:15

RE: That's True And Here's A Comprehensive List - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:34:08

lol Brookings is not credible(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:40:24

RE: Brookings Didn't Do All Of The Surveys - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:46:02

By the way, Obama is a bottom 10 president. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:57:31

RE: Link? (nm) - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:26:33

Link to what? - ummmm MU - 9/9 10:48:58

RE: So It's Your Opinion.... LOL - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:08:28

I am as qualified as any person to do so. - ummmm MU - 9/9 11:09:19

RE: Just As Us Posters - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:11:09

Yes. - pickle MU

- 9/9 12:45:29

RE: If We Don't Listen To Others - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 13:32:01

RE: It's Arrogant and Short-Sighted - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 13:26:51

Sure, why not? (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 11:35:13

RE: Indicative of Anti-Intellectualism - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 12:44:28

Indicative of your appeal to authority - pickle MU

- 9/9 12:46:46

RE: How So? (nm) - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 13:22:19

bottom 3 according to credible experts(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 10:16:21

RE: Link? (nm) - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:27:00

RE: Link? (nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 10:34:12

RE: You Can Use Google As Well As I Can - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:05:22

RE: Certain Polls Might Rank Him That Low - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:15:24

I prefer credible experts, not biased leftist organizations(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:49:22

So who are they? (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/9 09:57:10

RE: Yeah, Biased Rightist Organizations Are Much Better (nm) - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:50:20

In Soetoro's case, he is so bad that the wait period is not - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 9/9 09:11:46

RE: Can We Wait - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 08:48:17

Lmfao (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/9 12:47:39

RE: What Country In This World - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 13:23:42

Here are 9 charts of Obama's economic miracle... - JeffB MU

- 9/9 09:05:30

RE: Good Job Backing Up Opinion With Facts - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 09:26:28

OK, let's discuss your reply... - JeffB MU

- 9/9 10:11:10

RE: So I See Your Background - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 10:19:23

'Trump is FAR from these ideals, by the way.' I know. - JeffB MU

- 9/9 11:07:48

Most Austrian economics ideas were mainstream before - JeffB MU

- 9/9 10:43:18

RE: I'm Aware Of It - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 11:09:43

Keynesianism and the Federal Reserve and similar - JeffB MU

- 9/9 11:32:46

RE: I Don't Disagree - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 12:45:18

He's a clown. She's a crooked hag. We're ****ed(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 9/9 08:38:43

RE: My Conscience Is Clear - aj_arete01 MU - 9/9 08:40:21

and I wont be voting for either in Nov. #cancerforhillary16(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 9/9 08:41:50

RE: and I wont be voting for either in Nov. #cancerforhillary16(nm) - TIGERROAR MU - 9/9 08:51:23

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