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Surprised to see Keon that high, but as indicated

Posted on: August 30, 2016 at 13:22:41 CT
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below he wasn't really a pg so maybe that skews his statistical ranks given he was playing a different role. Most amazing though is that he compiled most of those statistics with a broken bone in his foot that freshman year.

Troy Hudson only played 20 total minutes at MU, so I'm not sure he should be included.

I think what your list most meaningfully conveys is that historically MU has not asked a freshman to play the role of the primary pg, other than Horton which also didn't work very well, before Phillips.

This is how I would rank our pg's in program history (Note, I'm considering Sundvold, Peeler, Sutherland, Grawer, Clarkson and Tiller shooting guards even though they played parts of their careers at point)

1. Larry Drew
2. Melvin Booker
3. Lee Coward
4. Lynn Hardy
5. Stefhon Hannah
6. Phil Pressey
7. Keyon Dooling
8. Scott Sims
9. Zaire Taylor
10.Prince Bridges

Edited by FIJItiger at 13:24:48 on 08/30/16
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Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:36:10
     Surprised to see Keon that high, but as indicated - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:22:41
          And I think Terrence Phillips will join that list - Burg421 MU - 8/30 13:50:46
               If you measure strictly production, I agree - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:53:15
                    This sounds a lot like - haeffb MU - 8/30 17:33:11
          A few of those players are not SEC caliber players nm - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 13:25:05
               I think this decisively proves - quicksand MU - 8/30 14:19:36
                    Ever seen the word "sarcasm" before? (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/30 17:34:34
               Who? All of those players are easily SEC caliber players (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:28:17
                    I'm making fun of you nm - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 14:39:17
     Why am I not on the list?(nm) - alstl MU - 8/30 12:15:43
          Because you didn't come here as a freshman Mr. Pulley(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:20:12
               And the poor efforts of pick-up game statisticians(nm) - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:26:32
     Thanks for the effort.... - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:15:23
          Exactly imagine if Doug Smith didn't come here. You think - Uncle John MU - 8/30 12:29:09
          perimeter play has been an issue under KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:20:36
               My biggest disappointment - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:24:18
               Missed shots from our wings hurt us a lot too(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:23:44
               agree, it's a guard dominated game - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:22:43
     One question Burg, about Keon Lawrence - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:58:07
          You're probably right. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 12:02:01
               We've had a lot of Keon's here lol (Keion, Keyon)(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:16:01
     I would be more interested in seeing - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 11:36:46
          Would be interesting to see - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:49:50
               my expectation for Phillips next year - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:13:30
                    hoping he can hold the TO number down a little more - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:18:20
                    Would love to see him get the A:TO ratio to - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:17:50
                    Sounds about right, hope he can limit the TO's more tho(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:17:32
                         Flip averaged 3.5 TOs his last year - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:23:36
                              Yes, when the ball is in your hands as much as it will be in - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:25:14
               Well thanks for taking the time to do it for us(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:54:36
     The only numbers to look at is this..... - ClassicTiger MU - 8/30 11:18:57
          Also impressive - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:27:40
     RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:41:14
          The least talented team in MU history was 2014 - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 11:24:26
               That team was better at every position than we will - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:11:58
                    By the eye test that is the worst group mizzou will ever - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 13:23:41
                         What eye test? - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:27:11
                              It was proven that year that he wouldn't have, - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 14:40:48
          RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 10:54:00
               RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 11:54:42
          RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:44:12
               RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 10:54:48
                    Just frustrating - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:56:15
                         The tigerboard monitor has become a total hater of Mizzou - Uncle John MU - 8/30 11:07:21
                              apologize my opinion is so hard to stomach(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 11:14:25
                                   Well, it is, and here's why.... - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:05:55
                                        RE: Well, it is, and here's why.... - StlWeir MU - 8/31 09:13:20
                                        Fair enough, I have already apologized (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:13:14
                                        Nailed it, brace for some silly apology(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:19:19
                                             No need for him to apologize to me - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:22:22
                                                  I was just kidding since he already did the apologize part - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:27:00
                                        good post , he'll probably ignore it - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:14:55
                         Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:56:59
                              RE: Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 11:03:11
                                   RE: Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:34:04
          So you can just throw in some scrub kid and they produce? - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:42:30
               No, and Phillips isn't a scrub - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:44:18
                    Yes he's helping us out of Haith's crater, - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 11:20:15
                    He is easily among the best freshmen pg's at Mizzou ever - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:46:44
                    Not scrub, but not SEC worthy Guard? - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:45:38
                         He is a good backup SEC pg, similar in caliber to - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:49:15
                              Phillips would have made that team that Stokes and - Uncle John MU - 8/30 11:18:19
                              Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:53:26
                                   RE: Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:57:13
                                        RE: Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - BIG RAY USA - 8/30 13:26:45
                                             It has more players drafted by the NBA basically every yr - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:29:43
                                        As i said, I disagree. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:01:19
                                        News flash, Booker is not the only player capable of that(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:58:06
                              So you've seen him play this year and know this ey(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:50:38
                                   No, our season hasn't started yet (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:52:48
                                        OMG so you're saying maybe Phillips could have improved - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:55:46
                                             No, I'm not saying that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:57:48
                         He's all over the place and trying to save face now(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:47:32
                              RE: He's all over the place and trying to save face now(nm) - TrueSonKC MU - 8/30 11:13:33
                                   Oh i know, I laid into him about that and he said Horton - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:20:42




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