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Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation)

Posted on: August 30, 2016 at 10:36:10 CT
Burg421 MU
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I keep seeing people post things about how none of our guards are SEC quality and how we are so doomed. So instead of simply spitting out an opinion, I broke down the following Point Guards that have played at Mizzou since 1984 to see who had the best Freshmen year ever.

This was my methodology. I looked at the following statistics. Minutes Per Game, Points Per Game, Reb Per Game, Assts Per Game, TO's Per Game, Steals Per Game, FG%, 3PT% and FT %. I then ranked these 14 point guards based on where they fell in each statistical category. A one was the best score (meaning you were the best in that category) and 14 means you were the worst statistically in that category.

I didn't include the following players:

Jimmy McKinney - Began as a SG
Miguel Paul - Not enough production
Tramaine Isabell - Not enough production
Ricky Clemmons - Juco Transfer
Randy Pulley - Juco Transfer
JT Tiller - Played primarily SG

And after ranking them on each statistical category, here are the results. The number below is the addition of all their statistical rankings against their other Mizzou Freshmen PG's. (Cumulative score)

From worst to best:
14. Troy Hudson (98)
13. Lynn Hardy (93)
12. Lee Coward (86)
11. Wes Clark (83)
10. Wesley Stokes (69)
9. Jason Horton (68)
8. Michael Dixon (64)
7. Melvin Booker (58)
6. Keyon Dooling (57)
5. Travis Ford (54)
3t. Phil Pressey (51)
3t. Terrence Phillips (51)
2. Brian Grawer (42)
1. Keon Lawrence (37)

Additional Comments:
- Yes, I realize less talented teams require players to play more, but generally will hurt their efficiencies and bring their overall rating down.
- Yes, I realize this doesn't always predict future success
- I do believe this shows that Terrence Phillips had one of the more impressive Freshmen years ever. To say we don't have any "SEC quality players" is a statistical fallacy, in my humble opinion.

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Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:36:10
     Surprised to see Keon that high, but as indicated - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:22:41
          And I think Terrence Phillips will join that list - Burg421 MU - 8/30 13:50:46
               If you measure strictly production, I agree - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:53:15
                    This sounds a lot like - haeffb MU - 8/30 17:33:11
          A few of those players are not SEC caliber players nm - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 13:25:05
               I think this decisively proves - quicksand MU - 8/30 14:19:36
                    Ever seen the word "sarcasm" before? (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/30 17:34:34
               Who? All of those players are easily SEC caliber players (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:28:17
                    I'm making fun of you nm - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 14:39:17
     Why am I not on the list?(nm) - alstl MU - 8/30 12:15:43
          Because you didn't come here as a freshman Mr. Pulley(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:20:12
               And the poor efforts of pick-up game statisticians(nm) - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:26:32
     Thanks for the effort.... - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:15:23
          Exactly imagine if Doug Smith didn't come here. You think - Uncle John MU - 8/30 12:29:09
          perimeter play has been an issue under KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:20:36
               My biggest disappointment - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:24:18
               Missed shots from our wings hurt us a lot too(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:23:44
               agree, it's a guard dominated game - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:22:43
     One question Burg, about Keon Lawrence - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:58:07
          You're probably right. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 12:02:01
               We've had a lot of Keon's here lol (Keion, Keyon)(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:16:01
     I would be more interested in seeing - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 11:36:46
          Would be interesting to see - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:49:50
               my expectation for Phillips next year - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:13:30
                    hoping he can hold the TO number down a little more - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:18:20
                    Would love to see him get the A:TO ratio to - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:17:50
                    Sounds about right, hope he can limit the TO's more tho(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:17:32
                         Flip averaged 3.5 TOs his last year - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/30 12:23:36
                              Yes, when the ball is in your hands as much as it will be in - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:25:14
               Well thanks for taking the time to do it for us(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:54:36
     The only numbers to look at is this..... - ClassicTiger MU - 8/30 11:18:57
          Also impressive - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:27:40
     RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:41:14
          The least talented team in MU history was 2014 - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 11:24:26
               That team was better at every position than we will - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:11:58
                    By the eye test that is the worst group mizzou will ever - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 13:23:41
                         What eye test? - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:27:11
                              It was proven that year that he wouldn't have, - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 14:40:48
          RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 10:54:00
               RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 11:54:42
          RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:44:12
               RE: Best Freshmen PG Seasons Since 1984 (Evaluation) - StlWeir MU - 8/30 10:54:48
                    Just frustrating - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:56:15
                         The tigerboard monitor has become a total hater of Mizzou - Uncle John MU - 8/30 11:07:21
                              apologize my opinion is so hard to stomach(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 11:14:25
                                   Well, it is, and here's why.... - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:05:55
                                        RE: Well, it is, and here's why.... - StlWeir MU - 8/31 09:13:20
                                        Fair enough, I have already apologized (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:13:14
                                        Nailed it, brace for some silly apology(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:19:19
                                             No need for him to apologize to me - Mormad MU - 8/30 12:22:22
                                                  I was just kidding since he already did the apologize part - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 12:27:00
                                        good post , he'll probably ignore it - Jeff85 MU - 8/30 12:14:55
                         Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:56:59
                              RE: Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 11:03:11
                                   RE: Yet this guy has credited Shane Rector as being good at Utah - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:34:04
          So you can just throw in some scrub kid and they produce? - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:42:30
               No, and Phillips isn't a scrub - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:44:18
                    Yes he's helping us out of Haith's crater, - nerdmachine KC - 8/30 11:20:15
                    He is easily among the best freshmen pg's at Mizzou ever - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:46:44
                    Not scrub, but not SEC worthy Guard? - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:45:38
                         He is a good backup SEC pg, similar in caliber to - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:49:15
                              Phillips would have made that team that Stokes and - Uncle John MU - 8/30 11:18:19
                              Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 10:53:26
                                   RE: Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:57:13
                                        RE: Disagreeing with you more and more everyday. - BIG RAY USA - 8/30 13:26:45
                                             It has more players drafted by the NBA basically every yr - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 13:29:43
                                        As i said, I disagree. - Burg421 MU - 8/30 11:01:19
                                        News flash, Booker is not the only player capable of that(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:58:06
                              So you've seen him play this year and know this ey(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:50:38
                                   No, our season hasn't started yet (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:52:48
                                        OMG so you're saying maybe Phillips could have improved - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:55:46
                                             No, I'm not saying that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/30 10:57:48
                         He's all over the place and trying to save face now(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 10:47:32
                              RE: He's all over the place and trying to save face now(nm) - TrueSonKC MU - 8/30 11:13:33
                                   Oh i know, I laid into him about that and he said Horton - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/30 11:20:42




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