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It's not all on them, obviously

Posted on: August 22, 2016 at 11:09:38 CT
Mormad MU
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it's a mix of them failing (in various respects) and our coaches failing to find ways to make them fit into some type of system that works.

Obviously, J3 is a loss - he could be, if not a centerpiece, then a very nice complementary piece to a decent team. Teki, if he could have remained healthy, showed signs and our team was much better before he got hurt. Stay healthy and progress normally and he helps.

Coaching is absolutely a part of it and if Kim fails to progress with his recruits then he'll rightfully get the ax or not be retained, however you want to frame it.
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Areas of needed/expected improvement - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 08:52:45
     Our worst defenders all quit and moved on (thank goodness). - go tigers MU - 8/22 22:21:58
     If we're stuck with KA for at least next 2 years.... - GapDaddy MU - 8/22 11:46:06
     What the basketball team needs is fans at the games - alstl MU - 8/22 10:45:57
          MU is projected to get 14th in the SEC for the 3rd straight - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:49:37
               The fans who were hyping the move to the SEC need to - alstl MU - 8/22 11:09:42
                    You continue to point your blame finger in the wrong - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 11:39:05
                    No fan cared about basketball when the SEC move was talked - Uncle John MU - 8/22 11:26:18
                    MU avged 11,996 in home attendance first yr in SEC - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:13:04
                         Right - and where are those fair weather SEC fans now - alstl MU - 8/22 12:06:14
                              Not sure who 'you people' are, but I certainly didn't - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 13:09:46
               An empty house should help us get better(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 10:50:38
                    MU already decided they were ok with that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:51:47
                         A good fanbase can really help a team - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 10:54:42
                              If anyone is expecting us to not set a new low attendance - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:58:08
                                   No I expect you to stay at home silly(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 11:16:09
                                        I will not be an anomaly (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:34:27
                                             cool(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 11:38:17
     No big surprises in some of the numbers - Mormad MU - 8/22 09:25:35
          Which leads to one hope for optimism - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:32:17
     I expect us to better across the board - atMIZZOUnow MU - 8/22 09:09:50
     Mizzou was a terrible defensive team last - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:04:09
          RE: Mizzou was a terrible defensive team last - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:13:49
               Clark, Gant, & Rosburg - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:22:56
                    Agree, and they all left leaving us with zero - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:29:21
                         I still expect the defense - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:35:22
                              Cool. Still sounds like 'hope' but we can call it expect(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:37:42
                                   its always hope until you see it - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:44:07
                    They were absolutely terrible defenders along with Wright - Uncle John MU - 8/22 09:23:37
                         RE: They were absolutely terrible defenders along with Wright - stl0404 MU - 8/22 09:59:04
                              Just having players who appear to want to play with each - sprintcar STL - 8/22 10:05:59
                              You don't think we will miss Rosburg? - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:02:19
                                   We absolutely will miss him - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:16:15
                                        I considered Wright to be a SF - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:22:10
                                             On Kenpom, it's listed as Wright or CVL - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:29:32
                                             Did Wright ever get a rebound in traffic. I don't think he - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:29:21
                                   a lot from a 10 win team - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:12:28
                                        It's not really about replacing what they did last year - tigerdb MU - 8/22 10:21:33
                                             this team will have less individual talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:27:39
                                                  Those are major D1 recruits with expectations of success - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:30:20
                                                       Everyone that's a D1 recruits expects success - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:34:57
                                                            That is unfair to judge those recruits in the context of our - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:39:07
                                                                 much like KA they weren't ready - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:44:50
                                                                 You're so full of b.s. Fiji - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:43:19
                                                                      I never alluded to them having overwhelming talent - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:54:04
                                                                           Until they were asked - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:56:39
                                                                                Ok. These are the same things that were said before - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:00:20
                                                                                     It's not all on them, obviously - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:09:38
                                                                                          There were some initial inherited assets, it could have - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:17:11
                                                                                          That's such a hard concept - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 11:17:02
                                                                                               Agreed, and I agree with Fiji about Quin's last year - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:21:06
                                                                                                    His last team had - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:30:32
                                                                                               If all your players under perform, that is on the coaches(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:19:38
                                                                                                    Do you think Puryear and Phillips underperformed? - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:24:10
                                                                                                         For freshman no. For leading scorers and starting pg's yes - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:28:28
                                                                                                         Likewise, based on expectations, did Rosburg under perform?(nm) - sprintcar STL - 8/22 11:27:15
                                                       Which was largely a function of their ****-poor play(nm) - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:31:46
                                        I think we can get back to that total, but it is going to - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:15:08
                                        Woods is as good as Rosburg. He had his moments - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:15:04
                                             Avged 0.9 ppg and 1.7 rebounds in SEC play - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:16:59
                                                  We need defense more than that.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:18:27
                                                       So we lost 5 of our top 7 scorers, but have a > need for D?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:20:23
                                                            You are a lost cause.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:30:18
                                                            Yea, being better on D is definitely needed - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:29:45




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