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its always hope until you see it

Posted on: August 22, 2016 at 09:44:07 CT
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But statistics say that players usually improve from freshman to sophomore to junior to senior year. So expecting the 7 players with college experience to be better than they were is less about hope, than following the normal improvement curve.

Woods is an example. He was a below average juco player his freshman year. His sophomore year he was much improved, with lots of HM offers.
Gant is another. He was completely lost defensively as a freshman, was actually decent defensively as a sophomore.
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Areas of needed/expected improvement - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 08:52:45
     Our worst defenders all quit and moved on (thank goodness). - go tigers MU - 8/22 22:21:58
     If we're stuck with KA for at least next 2 years.... - GapDaddy MU - 8/22 11:46:06
     What the basketball team needs is fans at the games - alstl MU - 8/22 10:45:57
          MU is projected to get 14th in the SEC for the 3rd straight - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:49:37
               The fans who were hyping the move to the SEC need to - alstl MU - 8/22 11:09:42
                    You continue to point your blame finger in the wrong - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 11:39:05
                    No fan cared about basketball when the SEC move was talked - Uncle John MU - 8/22 11:26:18
                    MU avged 11,996 in home attendance first yr in SEC - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:13:04
                         Right - and where are those fair weather SEC fans now - alstl MU - 8/22 12:06:14
                              Not sure who 'you people' are, but I certainly didn't - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 13:09:46
               An empty house should help us get better(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 10:50:38
                    MU already decided they were ok with that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:51:47
                         A good fanbase can really help a team - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 10:54:42
                              If anyone is expecting us to not set a new low attendance - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:58:08
                                   No I expect you to stay at home silly(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 11:16:09
                                        I will not be an anomaly (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:34:27
                                             cool(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/22 11:38:17
     No big surprises in some of the numbers - Mormad MU - 8/22 09:25:35
          Which leads to one hope for optimism - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:32:17
     I expect us to better across the board - atMIZZOUnow MU - 8/22 09:09:50
     Mizzou was a terrible defensive team last - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:04:09
          RE: Mizzou was a terrible defensive team last - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:13:49
               Clark, Gant, & Rosburg - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:22:56
                    Agree, and they all left leaving us with zero - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:29:21
                         I still expect the defense - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:35:22
                              Cool. Still sounds like 'hope' but we can call it expect(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 09:37:42
                                   its always hope until you see it - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 09:44:07
                    They were absolutely terrible defenders along with Wright - Uncle John MU - 8/22 09:23:37
                         RE: They were absolutely terrible defenders along with Wright - stl0404 MU - 8/22 09:59:04
                              Just having players who appear to want to play with each - sprintcar STL - 8/22 10:05:59
                              You don't think we will miss Rosburg? - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:02:19
                                   We absolutely will miss him - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:16:15
                                        I considered Wright to be a SF - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:22:10
                                             On Kenpom, it's listed as Wright or CVL - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:29:32
                                             Did Wright ever get a rebound in traffic. I don't think he - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:29:21
                                   a lot from a 10 win team - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:12:28
                                        It's not really about replacing what they did last year - tigerdb MU - 8/22 10:21:33
                                             this team will have less individual talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:27:39
                                                  Those are major D1 recruits with expectations of success - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:30:20
                                                       Everyone that's a D1 recruits expects success - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:34:57
                                                            That is unfair to judge those recruits in the context of our - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:39:07
                                                                 much like KA they weren't ready - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:44:50
                                                                 You're so full of b.s. Fiji - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:43:19
                                                                      I never alluded to them having overwhelming talent - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:54:04
                                                                           Until they were asked - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:56:39
                                                                                Ok. These are the same things that were said before - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:00:20
                                                                                     It's not all on them, obviously - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:09:38
                                                                                          There were some initial inherited assets, it could have - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:17:11
                                                                                          That's such a hard concept - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 11:17:02
                                                                                               Agreed, and I agree with Fiji about Quin's last year - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:21:06
                                                                                                    His last team had - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:30:32
                                                                                               If all your players under perform, that is on the coaches(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:19:38
                                                                                                    Do you think Puryear and Phillips underperformed? - Mormad MU - 8/22 11:24:10
                                                                                                         For freshman no. For leading scorers and starting pg's yes - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:28:28
                                                                                                         Likewise, based on expectations, did Rosburg under perform?(nm) - sprintcar STL - 8/22 11:27:15
                                                       Which was largely a function of their ****-poor play(nm) - Mormad MU - 8/22 10:31:46
                                        I think we can get back to that total, but it is going to - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:15:08
                                        Woods is as good as Rosburg. He had his moments - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:15:04
                                             Avged 0.9 ppg and 1.7 rebounds in SEC play - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:16:59
                                                  We need defense more than that.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:18:27
                                                       So we lost 5 of our top 7 scorers, but have a > need for D?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 10:20:23
                                                            You are a lost cause.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/22 10:30:18
                                                            Yea, being better on D is definitely needed - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:29:45




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