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The undeniable truth/reality about expectations

Posted on: August 10, 2016 at 09:06:28 CT
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Mike Anderson inherited an atrocious 12 win basketball team that lost its three best players from the year before, all of its incoming recruits other than Viadotus Volkus, and the prior class had been accumulated when MU was barred from leaving campus to recruit because MU was actually under meaningful NCAA penalties. He won ‘only’ 34 games in his first two seasons combined and was understandably on a considerable hot seat when he made a 15 game improvement the next year in the win column in setting the program’s single season record for wins in a season while winning the Big 12 championship and advancing to the Elite Eight. His first 3 years at MU totaled 65 wins. Since 2010 he has won a total of only 1 NCAA tourney game because he is at best an average NCAA head coach.

Frank Haith inherited a program where by year 2 his roster included only 1 returning player from the prior season and he had to entirely rebuild. He did so while under major NCAA investigation that seriously hampered his ability to run his program. He ‘disappointingly’ that season only finished 5th in the SEC and got knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tourney. The next year with all of his own players he again submitted a ‘disappointing’ season of only 23 wins and a 6th place finish in the SEC. His first 3 years at MU totaled 76 wins. His entire career as a head coach dating back to 2004 totals only 1 NCAA tourney game win because he is at best an average NCAA head coach.

I think its reasonable to expect this season we will win somewhere in the ballpark of around 17 games, will finish around 12th in the SEC, and will be a long shot to make the NIT tourney. I expect Kim will conclude year 3 somewhere in the ballpark of 35 total wins. But that is because I fully admit and recognize that we don’t have a viable option at head coach and that he is no where close to as good as Mike Anderson or Frank Haith as a head coach. Of course I expect such underwhelming results, I am don’t have any feeling he can do this job adequately.

When I suggest that a good benchmark for success this year is 24 wins, a top 5 finish in the SEC, and a 9 seed or better in the NCAA tourney of course I know that is entirely unrealistic. I don’t think even the most optimistic, blindly loyal Kim fan would say that is within the realm of possibility. But where the disconnect lies is that they seem incapable of recognizing that is essentially an admission that of course Kim Anderson isn’t anywhere close to as good a head coach as Frank Haith or Mike Anderson. To hold him to normal standards of success at MU are entirely unfair to the guy, of course he can’t do it. The reason achieving reasonable success is an absurd notion is a clear indication we have the wrong guy leading our program. Guys like Mike Anderson and Frank Haith already did it. Frankly whatever notion of ‘success’ is being presented as adequate for Kim Anderson would be viewed as abject failure by anyone else. Its undeniable, and it demonstrates a clear recognition that we have the wrong guy in charge if you (rightly) feel it is entirely implausible that he could reach the same normal benchmarks of success we would have previously held any other candidate to.

Edited by FIJItiger at 09:07:58 on 08/10/16
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The undeniable truth/reality about expectations - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 09:06:28
     Blah, blah, blah, etc. Do you expect posters to actually - go tigers MU - 8/11 01:47:36
          Facts upset you?(nm) - 68-69ron MU - 8/11 06:04:16
     You are a sad former fan. This post is a sign that you need - bornoncampus MU - 8/10 11:41:51
          can you define "we" in your post? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 14:20:14
          I second that! - Doc Epps MU - 8/10 13:53:25
     ELITE EIGHT!!!!!!!!!!(nm) - 44.f6 Rd1 MU - 8/10 11:28:38
     And that my friends, is why the Arena is drawing flies - samclemens MU - 8/10 11:14:40
     I agree completely (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 10:39:43
          Like father, like son(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/10 11:09:56
     Don't live in the past - raskolnikov MU - 8/10 09:57:25
          RE: Don't live in the past - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 10:15:41
               It should not matter where we are ranked. True fans still - ROLLATIGER MU - 8/10 12:47:56
     a lot of words to say nothing - Jeff85 MU - 8/10 09:52:27
          Ok, where do you stand? Do you feel that it is - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 09:54:15
               He has already done more. We are in a better place and that - Uncle John MU - 8/10 10:48:50
               I think Kim could equal those guys, in wins. - Evenflow MU - 8/10 10:24:33
                    Some seem to want this experiment to continue to see - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 10:30:00
                         RE: Some seem to want this experiment to continue to see - StlWeir MU - 8/10 11:21:20
                              I'm not assessing the team, I'm assessing the staff(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 12:33:52
                                   You are not good at that either.(nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 8/10 12:49:44
                                        Agree, I've been dead wrong thus far(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 12:53:30
               all of the prior coaches had standout seasons and all were - Jeff85 MU - 8/10 10:04:24
                    so your KA expectations are lower (by far) than the worst se - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 10:41:49
                         yes shameful, hoping for success and not wanting to - Jeff85 MU - 8/10 11:12:55
                              I'm hoping for success also. that isn't stupid. not - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 11:18:02
                    So you have done all but the last step - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 10:14:48
                         I support the team and hope for success - Jeff85 MU - 8/10 11:14:02
                              how do you support the team? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 11:19:33
                                   by watching and going to the games - Jeff85 MU - 8/10 13:49:54
                                        Fiji watches and goes to games - is that not support? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 15:03:18
     thing is those 2 haven't don't that very often - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 09:27:57
          Not acceptable, successful - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 09:38:42
               17% succes rate going back to mid '80's - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 09:48:47
                    Different eras - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 09:51:22
                         But your criteria is something that Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 10:01:08
                              Finishing in the top portion of your conf and being a decent - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 10:11:48
                                   96 teams make the NCAA and NIT. 351 total . There are how - catbirdseat MU - 8/10 10:39:23
                                   24 wins has happened less than 20% of the time - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 10:33:16
                                        more games are played now (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/10 10:43:08
                                        24 wins is applicable to this era - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 10:38:31
                                             somehow the coaches you mentioned - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 10:53:06
                                                  Talking about at MU, I don't care what other - FIJItiger MU - 8/10 11:01:37
                                                       your math doesn't really work either - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/10 11:10:59
                              -1 for capitalizing kansas(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/10 10:06:59
          This school doesn't need characters like Haith and MA.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/10 09:29:03
               What did Anderson do - catbirdseat MU - 8/10 09:53:39
                    Right now I think I would lean toward Jacobson if we can't - Uncle John MU - 8/10 10:54:22
     IMO, KA lost the first year, he was not prepared - MU-TULSA MU - 8/10 09:23:08
          I believe we were paying for someone who was - catbirdseat MU - 8/10 09:29:55
          Alden made him deal with Fuller and the Thug Train.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/10 09:28:07




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