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are you using averages like a moran for roi?

Posted on: April 29, 2012 at 18:57:01 CT

Gadfly MU

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and since that includes all the insider trading

any such numbers are absurd perversions of reality

average return on investment in this regard

will mean most old people living in poverty

your libertarian delusions are such a pain in the ass

and horribly intellectually disingenuous

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Obama and Dems want to preserve Medicare, Medicaid and SS - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:10:28

wow, really, you win, i'm pullin the dem lever - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/29 23:56:33

the dollar has lost 83% of its value since 1973 - ashtray USA - 4/29 20:57:40

wow, I could buy a lot of stuff if we were in 1973. - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 23:07:34

if your wages inflate w/ the dollar - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:37:19

wages don't increase at the same rate as inflation (nm) - ashtray USA - 4/30 06:43:52

some inflation is better than other inflation - Gadfly MU - 4/30 13:50:38

Didn't Obozo lower SS taxes by 2%? - Lerxst MU

- 4/29 20:13:33

Repeating the Lie of the Year doesn't make it true. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:47:21

the dems will be the ones to wreck social security - kbit MU - 4/29 17:05:05

is this your illogic? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:06:01

what does that mean? - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:24:34

It means THERE AIN'T ENOUGH MONEY. - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:14:27

so youre finally admitting - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:22:14

We misplace money EVERYWHERE. (nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:43:15

gat... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:46:38

I yell a lot. If I was - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:48:08

thats either really zen or really retarded. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:56:27

I can compromise. Call it both.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 20:00:45

once again - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 20:06:31

How so ? - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 17:06:51

Sorry, sonny boy. That won't wash. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:37:35

BS - lift the cap and it is fine - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:47:16

Irrelevant. Lifting the cap won't save it, as the link - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:52:12

Far left libs can not change their mind. I'm convinced of it - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 20:05:59

True dat! - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:45:29

Because, uh, they don't make enough money? - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:51:00

my purchasing power on ssi with BO is down about 25% - kbit MU - 4/29 18:06:11

RE: my purchasing power on ssi with BO is down about 25% - sarasotatiger MU - 4/29 19:12:11

Republicans are sworn to privatizing your SS and you can - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 18:31:14

nobody said the right was always right - kbit MU - 4/29 19:26:16

privitizing a portion of SS makes a ton of sense. - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:43:26

You want a federal investment plan - start one - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:05:04

you prefer a federal ponzi scheme to an investment plan? - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:06:55

I prefer the most successful federal social program in US - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:10:17

That's not saying much. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:56:59

What you really mean is that if its privatized then - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:20:48

the soviets eliminated the right to private property - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:44:15

I'm smart enough to know the point here is - GA Tiger MU - 4/30 06:59:02

that is not communism - Gadfly MU - 4/30 15:56:18

You're a fool - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 19:49:33

Since I have given to charity regularly - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:58:21

How bout when they print your money on an HP Laser Jet - Coors4bob MU - 4/29 19:18:28

do you trust wall street with social security? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:51:53

do you turst city and state bonds? - Coors4bob MU - 4/29 19:20:06

those will never provide a safety net for most poor people - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:34:07

what is the historical ROI for the SS fund vs the historical - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:54:56

are you using averages like a moran for roi? - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:57:01

no, I wanted to see some facts and data, instead.... - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:58:18

too bad you can't just make better arguments - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:00:04

you ignore the bad arguments and usually log off if there's - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:02:22

we need a social safety net for the poor - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:32:43

I agree, I don't want to take their SS away, I want to make - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 20:28:55

your averages will not do that - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:38:55

so in sum, you have somehow convinced yourself: - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:13:09

i already said, young people will have to grow older before - kbit MU - 4/29 18:56:05

your anti-growth agenda is anti-youth - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:59:01

even if purely selfish.... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:09:11

then we should increase benefits - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:07:10

that is exactly the debate that would go on 40 yrs ago - kbit MU - 4/29 18:49:54

that's not a good argument for eliminating it - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:53:04

I don't want to eliminate it, I want to make it better - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 19:01:33

the poor, disabled and uneducated need a safety net - Gadfly MU - 4/29 19:36:41

you can't read - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 20:33:49

your use of averages undermines your argument - Gadfly MU - 4/29 22:39:45

only for an idiot. what are the facts and data? - SoCalTigr UM - 4/30 01:55:18

the fact is that most old people live on social security - Gadfly MU - 4/30 02:22:10

Party of No, Party of No, Party of No, No, No - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 16:22:48

this kind of mindless chant is for the republicans. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:26:48

I was pointing out the mindlessness - raskolnikov MU - 4/29 17:44:12

^^^Superb illustration of several words.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/29 19:10:02

you should do it with more degradation and insult - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:47:37

or just post a few arrows next to his name, like >>>>> - SoCalTigr UM - 4/29 18:42:25

arrows are awesome...this guy ****er your mother!>>>>>>>>>>> - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 19:03:46

social security benefits should be - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:20:15

RE: social security benefits should be - scan MU - 4/29 16:30:01

^^ old man ^^ (nm) - MarcTiger MU - 4/29 16:39:16

hey! - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:27:58

ya mon - MarcTiger MU - 4/29 21:33:09

^^so Republican - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:35:33

why do they have to be old? - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:32:47

RE: why do they have to be old? - scan MU - 4/29 16:35:40

so the ability to prostitute oneself - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:39:36

I can never tell when you're being serious. (nm) - Lothar MU - 4/29 17:14:39

it's better that way - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:08:30

Never intended to be sole source of income - mu7176grad MU - 4/29 16:24:28

it's intended to keep people from starving to death - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:33:19

The old people around here drive Lincolns - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 17:54:06

your personal anecdotes - Gadfly MU - 4/29 18:09:25

Are you opposed to redistribution of fat government pensions - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 20:00:01

sure he does.... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:14:24

you just killed about 120 IQ points - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 18:03:24

That explains you dumb-ass post. - Alferd Packer MU

- 4/29 19:56:35

i deal in reality... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:25:39

Life's a ***** and then you die - mu7176grad MU - 4/29 16:28:41

is this some argument for eliminating social security - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:37:15

potd. - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:43:02

this isnt a ****ing contest... - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 16:30:59

i think he's saying he's immune - Gadfly MU - 4/29 16:42:16

i dont give a f*ck if he was drafted, thats welfare - mr. picklecopter KC - 4/29 17:23:44

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