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Frontcourt Productivity 23-24 vs Other Years

Posted on: April 24, 2024 at 08:35:06 CT

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We all knew the 23-24 frontcourt was awful. I wanted to see statistically if 23-24 would stick out as such. This is basic: I tabulated all "4's" and "5's" with at least 300 minutes played, added the minutes, points and rebouds, and then determined the per 40 minutes for scoring and rebounding. The mutigers website went back to 2012-13 which had a good frontcourt, so I used that as a desired productivity.

2012-13 Oriakhi, Bowers, Criswell
pts/40 17
reb/40 11 (Heighest)

2019-20 Mitchell, Brown, Nikko, Tilmon (Kim's 1st year)
pts/40 12 (tied for lowest)
reb/40 9

2021-22 Brown, Degray, Brazile (Kim's 3rd and final year)
pts/40 14
reb/40 9

2022-23 Brown, Carter, Shaw (Gates Year 1)
pts/40 18 (Highest)
reb/40 8 (tied for lowest)

2023-24 Carter, Vanover, Shaw, Butler, C-Martin
pts/40 12 (tied for lowest)
reb/40 8 (tied for lowest)

... kind of interesting. Yeah, it was bad. Can 2024-25 be 15/10 at least?

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Frontcourt Productivity 23-24 vs Other Years - APfor3 MU - 4/24 08:35:06

Here is a good resource if you desire to extend the analysis - FIJItiger MU

- 4/24 10:01:23

Gates discourages rebounding - TigerFan92 STL - 4/24 09:44:36

No he doesn’t (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 09:47:22

They ranked 350 out of 363 teams in rebounding this year - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 10:53:02

The offense he runs doesn’t prevent rebounding. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 10:58:29

They don't get offensive rebounds with 5 standing on the thr - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 11:05:03

What was the tempo this year? it sure didn't look - Harvey Specter MU - 4/24 11:51:49

You are correct. They slowed way down this year (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 11:55:14

so no excuses there for the D rebounding.(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 4/24 12:14:50

That’s where the philosophy could be criticized - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 12:19:03

That will change when he has more size and athleticism - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 11:10:40

He will have to change his philosophy - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 11:27:33

He’s been a HC 5 years. 4 of those years his teams have been - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 11:53:01

Based on what ? They cut to the basket on offense - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 12:45:59

This year was significantly different than his other 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 12:53:13

You made a statement and I asked what you based it on - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 13:03:49

The tournament team was among the national leaders - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 13:14:40

for the last time, based on what . nm - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 13:57:48

You dont want to just trust the Gates expert?(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 4/24 14:04:33

That information is tracked. Synergy is a good resource. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 14:04:00

I give up, you can throw out any numbers you want - Missiurifarmboy - 4/24 14:23:27

Mizzou had a top 20 offense in Gates first season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 14:37:55

whaaaaaat? Can you prove this remarkable claim?(nm) - Harvey Specter MU - 4/24 09:54:22

The 2024 recruiting class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 10:28:21

OMG that sounds terrible! It sure seems clear - Harvey Specter MU - 4/24 10:32:49

His team’s historically including his time as an assistant - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/24 10:36:14

I am confused, Brown averaged over 18 by himself per - TheWildcat MU

- 4/24 08:43:55

Don't be confused - APfor3 MU - 4/24 08:46:51

Ok I get it now. I was thinking TOTAL per 40 (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 4/24 08:49:40

I think you mean Cuonzo not Kim ? (nm) - o'lineydisciple MU - 4/24 08:41:42

Yeah, please ignore that (nm) - APfor3 MU - 4/24 08:47:15