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Posted on: March 11, 2025 at 10:24:54 CT
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the plan is to have the recession as soon as possible (simply realizing the recession Biden governed through) and get interest rates lower before you have to refinance about $10T of debt coming due this year.

You do *not* want anything other than a gnarly recession right now if you like our currency.

Keep in mind that the "we haven't been in a recession" talk is based on warped Keynesian interpretations of fluffed government statistics. Keynes (whether you like him or hate him, reasons for both) always assumed government debt would be taken on in bad times and paid back in good ones - hence large interest payments and vastly corrupt spending were *not* incorporated in the assumptions he used to justify including government spending in GDP. The form of government spending he assumed was (1) a much smaller component of overall economic activity than we recently grew to and (2) was dominated by capital projects or useful defense, which have high multipliers - not transfer payments and interest. Adjust for those last 2 and we've been in recession for some time.
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How can you not see this - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:24:54
     Would love to see mortgage rates get closer to 5.5% - Mizzou Lou KC - 3/11 11:11:42
          it's going to take a while there - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:25:38
               I have had the good fortune of communicating with - Mizzou Lou KC - 3/11 12:04:42
     52% growth in federal spending & 2% population growth... - Lerxst MU - 3/11 11:03:52
          burn it down (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 11:04:21
               nah, ashtray wants to let it continue, "get out of the way" - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 11:25:49
               instead, they'll pass a budget identical to Biden's - Seagull MU - 3/11 11:13:26
                    Primary him right to a Senate seat - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 11:45:16
     biden cooked the books his entire 4 years - NPDTiger MU - 3/11 10:50:15
          I'm still shorting it - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:56:27
               it's getting close. current short interest is crazy - NPDTiger MU - 3/11 10:58:44
                    it is high - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:01:56
     Government can only pervert and manipulate economic - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 3/11 10:47:33
     "and this is why a recession is a good thing!" - Seagull MU - 3/11 10:47:21
          you're abdicating reason here (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 10:50:19
               More like calling out the BS.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 10:52:51
                    Do you not think a correction was inevitable - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 10:53:41
                         Even if it is a "correction" - Calca STL - 3/11 11:08:53
                              I think the media is going to do far worse - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:39:04
                         I’m only speaking of the BS in the OP about there being a - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:03:48
                              it's not hard to see in the messaging - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:09:32
                                   Right and the Commerce Secretary said no recession. Bessent - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:14:38
                                        the two issues are linked - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:21:51
                         a correction in the stock market does not equal recession (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/11 10:54:31
                              What do you propose the Trump admin - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 10:55:31
                                   get out of the way (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/11 11:11:28
                                        and let gvmt spending go unchecked and let the fed - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 11:23:53
                                             that's happening this week - Seagull MU - 3/11 11:28:58
          That depends on whether or not you think - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 10:49:46
               it was always going to be necessary - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:57:48
                    Its hilarious watching the messaging on both sides - sks MU - 3/11 12:24:02
          I'm just waiting for it to hit bottom before I jump back in - Logan STL - 3/11 10:50:23
               And how will you know rock bottom? nm - Sarazen KC - 3/11 14:25:16
               wait. you have been out of the market for 4 years?(nm) - tman MU - 3/11 11:07:48
               if you've been in money markets since then - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:55:58
          well, it's been about 10 weeks - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:46:34
               When did Trump campaign on nudging towards a recession - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 10:49:27
                    It was talked on here before the election - CulturedDan MU - 3/11 11:41:13
                    When did Biden campaign on funding a war - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:54:24
                         #whatabout (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 10:56:37
                              no, just exposing your hypocrisy - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 10:57:19
                                   Yet I’ve never supported Biden. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:05:19
                                        I didn't say you did - FootballRefugee MU - 3/11 11:06:18
                    Why would anybody campaign on that? (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 3/11 10:50:06
     bingo. the adults are actually in charge in this regard (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 10:26:43




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