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Your argument, that I was challenging, was:

Posted on: January 5, 2025 at 21:03:24 CT
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that for a conspiracy theory to be true, the conspirators would need to pay off everyone who was defending them or doing things that helped them prevail with their conspiracy.

Excerpt from my earlier post:

This thread was about global warming. In the discussion, Fourth & Long made the assertion that it was:

"a hoax designed to line the pockets of the the elites and to facilitate a new world order/global economy which undermines the best interest of the US"

http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19357768
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You took issue with that, mocking him by saying:
"Right.. and they pay off thousands upon thousands of scientists to create fake studies.

JFC, conspiracy tards are stupid."
http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19357840
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My response:
http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19358029

Like they had to pay off hundreds of 'fact checkers', social media censors & news reporters regarding all sorts of news items like Covid, Russia collusion, Biden's dementia etc?, etc?, etc.?

Do you realize that the government is the elephant in the room... the one that has much/most of the money to throw around in grants, government favoritism in contracts and so on?
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Please keep on track and discuss this argument:

Is it impossible for a conspiracy to have hundreds or thousands of people who are doing things that help the conspiracy unless the conspirators "pay off" all of those hundreds or thousands of people?
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Am hearing Ace is rethinking global warming - ya think? - El Zorro MU - 1/5 13:49:03
     Ackshally, snow and extreme cold is a result of climate - CulturedDan MU - 1/5 17:14:50
          Yes, extreme weather events area a result of change - raskolnikov MU - 1/5 19:11:04
               "Snow in winter is a result of climate change" -rask - Calca STL - 1/5 20:28:31
               No, they aren’t. They have always happened. Only long term - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 20:00:09
                    RE: No, they aren’t. They have always happened. Only long term - THEGROVE68 MU - 1/6 06:36:50
               Yet another issue you swallowed lies on . - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/5 19:48:07
               Are you asserting that extreme weather events are a result - JeffB MU - 1/5 19:20:52
                    Depends on the data points. One event or cluster of events - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 19:52:34
                         RE: Depends on the data points. One event or cluster of events - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 19:57:10
                              As I mentioned in another post, climate change is going to - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 20:07:33
                                   RE: As I mentioned in another post, climate change is going to - THEGROVE68 MU - 1/6 06:38:22
                                   Mostly agree - meatiger MU - 1/5 22:51:22
                                        Who are the anti-climate change groups? - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 23:40:45
                                             RE: Who are the anti-climate change groups? - THEGROVE68 MU - 1/6 06:40:27
                                             The energy companies - meatiger MU - 1/5 23:53:59
                                                  Well, I figured that may be who you were talking about - Wildcat KSU - 1/6 08:39:09
                                   Everything you said - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 20:11:50
                                        yep (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/5 20:14:44
                    Certainly has a great deal to do with it yeah(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/5 19:21:48
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 19:48:07
                         White Bison is a sign of hope - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 19:29:04
               RE: Yes, extreme weather events area a result of change - MOCO SON MU - 1/5 19:14:40
                    I think the point being, regardless of a weather channel, a - raskolnikov MU - 1/5 19:21:00
                         Do you disagree with TigerMatt's post above? link: - JeffB MU - 1/5 20:14:27
     Blizzards during winter are proof of global warming - Calca STL - 1/5 16:31:03
     He's too busy tasting his kid's poop (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/5 15:46:20
          Thats right there with macgrantts love of cream pies - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/5 16:47:44
               RE: Thats right there with macgrantts love of cream pies - Seagull MU - 1/5 18:26:05
                    Intentional or not that was funny - GODZILLA MU - 1/5 19:04:24
               Macgrantt going stage three(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 1/5 17:30:07
               YouRe WhiTe KniGHtiNg For - GODZILLA MU - 1/5 16:55:07
          FU.. I had buried that deep in my mind and you drag it back - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 15:47:59
               This was a thread here?(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 17:51:13
                    RE: This was a thread here?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/5 19:41:16
                         I will not scar my brain by - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 19:50:54
     Weather =/= climate.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 15:44:38
     It's not possible to rethink what was never thunk in the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/5 15:09:46
     Breaking all kinds of records. (nm) - Outsider MU - 1/5 14:48:20
     Envirotologists claim it's just weather when it goes against - Fourth and Long MU - 1/5 14:45:57
          Right.. and they pay off thousands upon thousands of - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 15:46:20
               Of course, you still believe the mRNA experimental - MUTGR MU - 1/5 18:10:13
                    Statistically they are safe. More doses of those vaccines - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 18:20:47
                         RE: Statistically they are safe. More doses of those vaccines - THEGROVE68 MU - 1/6 06:44:07
               Like they had to pay off hundreds of 'fact checkers', social - JeffB MU - 1/5 17:53:00
                    The elephant in the room are those profiting from your - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 18:21:49
                         That's rich, coming from the guy who refuses to believe the - JeffB MU - 1/5 18:34:10
                              So because SOME conspiracy theory claims may turn - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 18:40:31
                                   Another straw man argument from you & you're still throwing - JeffB MU - 1/5 18:46:45
                                        that wasn’t a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 1/5 19:49:50
                                        You don’t know what a straw man is. You are using some - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 18:56:53
                                             Your summary of my argument was not accurate at all... - JeffB MU - 1/5 19:14:08
                                                  What you just did is one huge BULLSH-T detector point - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 19:45:01
                                                       Wrong. Story after story has come out, even in the mainstrea - JeffB MU - 1/5 20:02:26
                                                            More and more strawman. What does this have to do with - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 20:10:05
                                                                 Yes, your are doubling down on your strawman arguments. - JeffB MU - 1/5 20:41:29
                                                                      You have to address how thousands of scientists are - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 23:31:21
                                                                           The scientists themselves talk about the pressures of gettin - JeffB MU - 1/6 19:42:15
                                                  Here you go again. This is a straw man. The topic is vaccine - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 19:42:36
                                                       I don't believe that I've mentioned the efficacy of the - JeffB MU - 1/5 20:11:43
               Exactly, follow the money (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 1/5 17:19:02
                    Yes, conspiracy tards make money off tards.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 17:51:39
               You are getting closer to figuring it out - TigerFan92 STL - 1/5 16:17:47
                    You just listen to charlatans on YouTube and alt media sites - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 17:51:08
                         You swallow the lies of the government & mainstream media - JeffB MU - 1/5 18:00:07
                              Those doctors you claim were telling the truth about - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 18:18:29
                                   You are now cherry picking a few cases & extrapolating to - JeffB MU - 1/5 19:01:13
                                        Right.. it had nothing to do with them spreading wrong - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 19:05:35
                                             You were wrong and duped the entire time and you still - TigerFan92 STL - 1/6 22:51:26
                                             RE: Right.. it had nothing to do with them spreading wrong - THEGROVE68 MU - 1/6 06:55:48
                                             There were multiple well known and well respected doctors - JeffB MU - 1/5 19:27:51
                                                  Things you can’t acknowledge. 1) The most widely deployed - TigerMatt KC - 1/5 19:41:16
                                                       Again, you have lost track of the argument I was making - JeffB MU - 1/5 20:46:22
                                                            Your argument, that I was challenging, was: - JeffB MU - 1/5 21:03:24
     The earth does not care what people think about its climate - BH O'bonga MU - 1/5 14:36:39
          Really? H'mmm(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/5 19:11:45
               Do you think that 'the earth cares'... about anything? - JeffB MU - 1/5 21:06:14
     Rethinking implies that he originally thought about it. - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/5 14:21:44
     RE: Am hearing Ace is rethinking global warming - ya think? - JG A - 1/5 13:51:11
          Environmental Whacko Honeypot(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 14:49:52
          Sounds like a radical left article, need a balance dont need - MU-TULSA MU - 1/5 14:19:07
          So "... a push for justice" is climate news? The shít you - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/5 14:12:05
               It's the same target audience - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 14:50:46
               LOL - JG A - 1/5 14:16:09
          "Inside Climate News" - now there's a reliable source - El Zorro MU - 1/5 14:04:59
               It's the lawenforcement.com for lefties (nm) - CulturedDan MU - 1/5 17:21:39
               RE: "Inside Climate News" - now there's a reliable source - Wildcat KSU - 1/5 14:52:41
               indeed - it certainly is - JG A - 1/5 14:15:21




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