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You are making my point for me. The fact that having Izzo

Posted on: December 10, 2024 at 14:35:23 CT
Lt. J. Dangle MU
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and strong reputation makes a difference in the rankings makes those rankings dumb in my opinion...which was the original point.

And honestly, I think the Izzo and brand reputation are MUCH more of the reason than number of power conference opponents.

There is a reason the AP poll is used for nothing.
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I honestly wish that the AP poll would just die and go away. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 13:36:33
     I honestly don’t know why y’all bother - BlackSheep MU - 12/10 17:51:15
     So many ranked Football teams are due to "feel good stories" - Tigerfish MU - 12/10 15:12:38
          Exactly (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 15:24:08
     They only saw the ku loss and have no idea - Harvey Specter MU - 12/10 14:56:04
     Us not being ranked implies that ku sucks which I agree with - McMuffin MU - 12/10 14:07:36
          This is the weakest ku roster in a long ass time. - alwaysright MU - 12/10 15:58:37
          you can't be serious (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:11:49
     Polls this time of year don't matter - 60 + schools make - alstl MU - 12/10 14:00:02
          Yes, I acknowledged that. AP poll doesn't matter anytime of - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:03:49
               The great thing about college basketball - the tournament - alstl MU - 12/10 20:14:46
     Michigan State has played a respectable non-con schedule. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 13:54:52
          There sue goes. By 12/22 MU will have played 3 Top 25 teams - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 14:04:18
               what does that have to do with today's ranking? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:19:06
               but on 12/10 (today), MU has only played 1 (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:05:09
                    2, have been/are, it's a fluid standard, pretty meaningless - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 14:07:28
                    How many has michigan state played? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:06:50
                         twice as many (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:09:44
                              They've played one ranked team and lost (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:13:39
                                   no, UNC was ranked when they played (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:14:50
                                        Ranked when they played doesn't mean they were good - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:17:33
                                             True, but they *were* ranked, and they *are* a major brand (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:28:40
                                        ...and UNC is a "name" opponent, regardless of their - zounami MU - 12/10 14:15:25
                                             Also, MSU wasn't ranked at all after beating UNC. This week - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:57:50
                                   And it just happens to be the same ranked team that Missouri - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:14:11
          You certainly didn't think much of them when Memphis - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:00:56
               I still don't... Where did I ever claim they're a good team? - zounami MU - 12/10 14:01:52
                    Well, you are defending them being ranked #21 by the AP (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:07:52
                         No, I'm *explaining why* they're ranked by the AP... - zounami MU - 12/10 14:08:27
                              well, you are wrong (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:08:57
                                   so they * aren't * actually ranked 21 by the AP? If zou - 90Tiger STL - 12/10 14:20:10
                                        No, I am saying for the most part the AP Poll specifically - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:23:40
                                             It's mostly name-bias, but MSU is 4-1 vs power-conference - zounami MU - 12/10 14:27:22
                                                  You are making my point for me. The fact that having Izzo - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:35:23
                                                       because we agree that the AP poll is largely inaccurate & - zounami MU - 12/10 15:01:05
                                                            I wasn't asking for reasons why AP pollsters vote the way - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 15:05:24
                                                                 If you two would stop arguing about why you agree - haeffb MU - 12/10 16:58:04
                                                                      LOL, I think we are there now. It would have been much - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/11 09:03:18
                                   I can explain it to you, I can't force you to understand it. - zounami MU - 12/10 14:10:04
                                        You aren't explaining the AP poll (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:15:50
               hahahahaha(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/10 14:01:49
                    Talk about a reading comprehension fail. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:02:50
                         yeah, that's what it is(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/10 14:03:46
                              Re-read my posts. I never said MSU is a good team. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:04:19
                                   no one here is saying you did. you need to - TigerA MU - 12/10 14:06:31
                                        He's claiming I contradicted myself, which isn't true. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:07:57
                                             So you don't believe msu is worthy of being ranked #21? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:20:22
                                                  right... I wouldn't rank them in the top 25 (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:24:39
                                                       Well, that was my point. SOS is a decent argument I guess - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:32:09
     It's because of strength of schedule - Columbian Gold MU - 12/10 13:47:49
          Kenpom is liking us despite the terrible data from last year - Harvey Specter MU - 12/10 14:56:37
          The SEC is a meatgrinder this year. 13 quad one games - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/10 14:03:37
               This is totally accurate. - alwaysright MU - 12/10 14:26:54
          The problem with most strength of schedule calculations is - alwaysright MU - 12/10 13:58:12
               That's why it's dumb to schedule low-majors, especially - zounami MU - 12/10 13:59:34
                    It's dumb to care about bball rankings in December - Columbian Gold MU - 12/10 14:03:36
                         The OP is talking about rankings. I'm talking about NCAAT - zounami MU - 12/10 14:05:47
          Do you really believe that is why? If their name wasn't - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 13:56:22
               Yes, kenpom rankings show something similar - Columbian Gold MU - 12/10 14:01:17
                    So Baylor should be ranked ahead of michigan state? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:18:35
                    What is ku SOS? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:03:02
                         18 compared to our 360 (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 12/10 14:04:29
                              What is Kentucky's ? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:47:32
                                   no way of knowing (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 12/10 16:14:11
                                        I'm just asking because I don't know which source you are - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 16:54:41
               it's a combo of name-bias & their strong non-con schedule (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 13:58:37
                    Arguing just to argue. When Memphis beats them you - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:02:36
                         no, I'm explaining to you why MSU is ranked & MU isn't (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:03:29
                              Ok, so every AP pollster compared MSU and MU's sos and - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:05:52
                                   no, pollsters don't do much research, but they do know... - zounami MU - 12/10 14:07:39
                                        Who are these several tough opponents you keep talking about - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:13:21
                                             They've already played 5 power-conference opponents... - zounami MU - 12/10 14:16:32
                                                  Why doesn't the NCAA use the AP poll for selection? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:19:07
                                                       ask the NCAA (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:28:03
                                                            Don't need to. Like my original post stated, it's because - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 14:38:03
                                                                 agreed... most of them are lazy, biased hacks (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 14:59:55
                                                                      100! (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 15:05:47
     RE: I honestly wish that the AP poll would just die and go away. - mizzoutiger91 MU - 12/10 13:40:57
          They will dick it up just as much then as they do now. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 12/10 13:48:27




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