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Well, you are defending them being ranked #21 by the AP (nm)
Posted on: December 10, 2024 at 14:07:52 CT
Lt. J. Dangle
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I honestly wish that the AP poll would just die and go away.
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 13:36:33
I honestly don’t know why y’all bother
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BlackSheep
MU
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12/10 17:51:15
So many ranked Football teams are due to "feel good stories"
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Tigerfish
MU
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12/10 15:12:38
Exactly (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 15:24:08
They only saw the ku loss and have no idea
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Harvey Specter
MU
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12/10 14:56:04
Us not being ranked implies that ku sucks which I agree with
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McMuffin
MU
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12/10 14:07:36
This is the weakest ku roster in a long ass time.
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alwaysright
MU
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12/10 15:58:37
you can't be serious (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:11:49
Polls this time of year don't matter - 60 + schools make
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alstl
MU
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12/10 14:00:02
Yes, I acknowledged that. AP poll doesn't matter anytime of
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:03:49
The great thing about college basketball - the tournament
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alstl
MU
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12/10 20:14:46
Michigan State has played a respectable non-con schedule. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 13:54:52
There sue goes. By 12/22 MU will have played 3 Top 25 teams
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Macgrantt
MU
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12/10 14:04:18
what does that have to do with today's ranking? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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12/10 14:19:06
but on 12/10 (today), MU has only played 1 (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:05:09
2, have been/are, it's a fluid standard, pretty meaningless
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Macgrantt
MU
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12/10 14:07:28
How many has michigan state played? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:06:50
twice as many (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:09:44
They've played one ranked team and lost (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:13:39
no, UNC was ranked when they played (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:14:50
Ranked when they played doesn't mean they were good
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:17:33
True, but they *were* ranked, and they *are* a major brand (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:28:40
...and UNC is a "name" opponent, regardless of their
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:15:25
Also, MSU wasn't ranked at all after beating UNC. This week
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:57:50
And it just happens to be the same ranked team that Missouri
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:14:11
You certainly didn't think much of them when Memphis
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:00:56
I still don't... Where did I ever claim they're a good team?
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:01:52
Well, you are defending them being ranked #21 by the AP (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:07:52
No, I'm *explaining why* they're ranked by the AP...
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:08:27
well, you are wrong (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:08:57
so they * aren't * actually ranked 21 by the AP? If zou
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90Tiger
STL
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12/10 14:20:10
No, I am saying for the most part the AP Poll specifically
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:23:40
It's mostly name-bias, but MSU is 4-1 vs power-conference
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:27:22
You are making my point for me. The fact that having Izzo
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:35:23
because we agree that the AP poll is largely inaccurate &
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zounami
MU
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12/10 15:01:05
I wasn't asking for reasons why AP pollsters vote the way
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 15:05:24
If you two would stop arguing about why you agree
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haeffb
MU
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12/10 16:58:04
LOL, I think we are there now. It would have been much
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/11 09:03:18
I can explain it to you, I can't force you to understand it.
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:10:04
You aren't explaining the AP poll (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:15:50
hahahahaha(nm)
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TigerA
MU
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12/10 14:01:49
Talk about a reading comprehension fail. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:02:50
yeah, that's what it is(nm)
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TigerA
MU
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12/10 14:03:46
Re-read my posts. I never said MSU is a good team. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:04:19
no one here is saying you did. you need to
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TigerA
MU
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12/10 14:06:31
He's claiming I contradicted myself, which isn't true. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:07:57
So you don't believe msu is worthy of being ranked #21? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:20:22
right... I wouldn't rank them in the top 25 (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:24:39
Well, that was my point. SOS is a decent argument I guess
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:32:09
It's because of strength of schedule
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Columbian Gold
MU
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12/10 13:47:49
Kenpom is liking us despite the terrible data from last year
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Harvey Specter
MU
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12/10 14:56:37
The SEC is a meatgrinder this year. 13 quad one games
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HissingPrigs77
MU
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12/10 14:03:37
This is totally accurate.
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alwaysright
MU
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12/10 14:26:54
The problem with most strength of schedule calculations is
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alwaysright
MU
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12/10 13:58:12
That's why it's dumb to schedule low-majors, especially
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zounami
MU
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12/10 13:59:34
It's dumb to care about bball rankings in December
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Columbian Gold
MU
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12/10 14:03:36
The OP is talking about rankings. I'm talking about NCAAT
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:05:47
Do you really believe that is why? If their name wasn't
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 13:56:22
Yes, kenpom rankings show something similar
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Columbian Gold
MU
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12/10 14:01:17
So Baylor should be ranked ahead of michigan state? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:18:35
What is ku SOS? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:03:02
18 compared to our 360 (nm)
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Columbian Gold
MU
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12/10 14:04:29
What is Kentucky's ? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:47:32
no way of knowing (nm)
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Columbian Gold
MU
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12/10 16:14:11
I'm just asking because I don't know which source you are
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 16:54:41
it's a combo of name-bias & their strong non-con schedule (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 13:58:37
Arguing just to argue. When Memphis beats them you
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:02:36
no, I'm explaining to you why MSU is ranked & MU isn't (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:03:29
Ok, so every AP pollster compared MSU and MU's sos and
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:05:52
no, pollsters don't do much research, but they do know...
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:07:39
Who are these several tough opponents you keep talking about
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:13:21
They've already played 5 power-conference opponents...
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:16:32
Why doesn't the NCAA use the AP poll for selection? (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:19:07
ask the NCAA (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:28:03
Don't need to. Like my original post stated, it's because
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 14:38:03
agreed... most of them are lazy, biased hacks (nm)
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zounami
MU
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12/10 14:59:55
100! (nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 15:05:47
RE: I honestly wish that the AP poll would just die and go away.
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mizzoutiger91
MU
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12/10 13:40:57
They will dick it up just as much then as they do now.
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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12/10 13:48:27