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Yet the impact of that era lingers even for those without

Posted on: May 1, 2024 at 15:19:38 CT
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Ever wonder why there are practically zero people on the Missouri side of the line once you go directly south of Belton/Raymore?

It's because the four counties south of that were the "burnt district" that got forcibly depopulated during those times and they never fully recovered

Ever wonder why KCMO specifically was able to become the primary large city and trading center in the region?

Part of the answer is because the previous largest trading centers in the region like Lexington MO and Osceola MO got caught in the equivalent of being in present day Eastern Ukraine or Gaza at the wrong time, ping ponged between the two warring sides and ravaged by both, and never regained prominence.

If the Missouri legislature had been able to reign in its Governor and stay truly neutral during that conflict at the time like it wanted to, those towns might not have been ravaged, and maybe one of those other random MO cities is the big one instead of KCMO.

that's a Marvel multiverse movie we never knew we needed

Edited by McMuffin at 15:20:59 on 05/01/24
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If the Chiefs moved to Overland Park, KS... wouldn't that - zounami MU - 5/1 14:07:36
     i would still root for the Chiefs after ks move only if - hans schmidt MU - 5/1 18:14:23
     KC would miss out on the 1% earning tax that - Bucky Larson MU - 5/1 16:57:40
     Overland Park is part of KC(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/1 15:17:15
          keep telling yourself that. You are a kansan not - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/1 15:41:05
               He's the Kim Anderson of leaving Sedalia for kansas (nm) - McMuffin MU - 5/1 16:10:21
                    wait, is fiji really a kansan? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 16:16:23
          no it's not (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 15:36:48
     Hey - quit bringing your tardiness to the Shack. You do - Carlos Rossi KC - 5/1 15:13:55
          everyone, except you, was able to discuss this like an adult - zounami MU - 5/1 15:39:11
     NFL has a 550 million dollar fee to move a franchise - Rabbit Test MU - 5/1 15:01:21
          Would that apply as the franchise is staying in the same - KC rules MU - 5/1 15:04:24
               No, I don't think that factors into this at all. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:20:20
     it's 10 days a year. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/1 14:58:52
     The issues between Missouri and kansas are different - McMuffin MU - 5/1 14:46:07
          Kansans are easy to make fun of because they do not even - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:49:40
               You're a kansan. Not only do you live there, you're paid - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:51:49
                    and he capitalized it - McMuffin MU - 5/1 14:55:08
                         Kansas the state can be capitalized ku, never.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:57:42
                              jayhawkers were around before the university there was - McMuffin MU - 5/1 15:11:42
                                   Agreed. I think now that we're not even in the same - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:18:08
                         exactly (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:56:24
                    Work in Missouri again. It makes no difference in this - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:54:54
                         That's even worse. You're taking my tax dollars for pay - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:56:56
                              You do realize that money made in Missouri is taxed by - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:58:26
                                   You file in both states. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:00:51
               wait... aren't you literally a Kansan ? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:50:57
                    I live in Kansas I will never be a Kansan (nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:55:22
                         see, you're in denial... you *are* a Kansan, literally (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:56:41
          Missour tigers hate kansas jayhawks. no one else cares(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/1 14:49:07
          So there's no rivalry between New York and New Jersey? - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:47:51
               LMFAO no, not in the Border War sense - McMuffin MU - 5/1 14:52:14
                    People like you are fewer and farther between - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:03:10
                         Yet the impact of that era lingers even for those without - McMuffin MU - 5/1 15:19:38
                              While good history, that has little to do with actual - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:23:30
               McMuffin is right, and NYC doesn't have to worry about - zounami MU - 5/1 14:50:23
                    KC is doing just fine. They don't have to worry - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:55:38
     Didn't the Redskins once play in Landover, MD? - ERB KC - 5/1 14:45:32
          See above. DC, Maryland and Virginia aren't enemies - McMuffin MU - 5/1 14:48:45
     if the Crds move to Illinois would Card's - tman MU - 5/1 14:33:06
          yes, if the St Louis Cards moved to different city in IL... - zounami MU - 5/1 14:35:14
               Except by your definition - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:36:21
               STL fans must be really stupid then.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:36:07
                    nope, just KC fans evidently (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:37:02
          I'd be ****ed....they also made that threat 20 years ago (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:34:22
          huh?(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/1 14:33:50
               20 years ago they made that threat. now they want a - tman MU - 5/1 14:48:54
     Washington Commanders play in Maryland.(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 5/1 14:32:33
     I'm from Dublin - TigerA MU - 5/1 14:32:12
          When I'm overseas I say I'm from Chicago - Columbian Gold MU - 5/1 14:37:03
          I have lived within the city limits of KC for about 10 years - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:35:39
               In the US, most people just mention the metro they are from - KC rules MU - 5/1 14:40:26
          You have an accent?(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:35:01
     New York Jets & Giants play in New Jersey.(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 5/1 14:31:17
     Seems like the Missouri side residents don't - Sarazen KC - 5/1 14:30:32
          No one with a brain does. The teams bring in a ton of - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:33:16
               YOU are a kansan. Why do you keep calling yourself - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:33:57
                    You are a moron. I lived in MO for the first 40 years of my - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:39:17
                         You are a kansan by choice, regardless of where you used to - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:40:27
                         why do you prefer to live in Kansas over Missouri? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:40:17
                              I was transferred to KC back in the 90's and lived - Sarazen KC - 5/1 14:45:05
                                   Beakers suck but sadly they are found all over the city.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:47:47
                              Wife works on the Kansas side, when we bought the house - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:44:59
                                   You're an example of Kansas (JoCo) siphoning taxpayers away - zounami MU - 5/1 14:53:54
                                        Again, you seem pretty clueless of KC. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 15:05:23
                                        The KC metro has just over 2M people. Less than 500k live - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 15:00:43
                                             510,000 in the city proper. why lie?(nm) - tman MU - 5/1 15:33:43
                                                  Another 150K on in KCK. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 16:13:23
                    does he really live in Kansas?.. that would explain things (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:37:57
                         where you live helps explain this thread(nm) - tman MU - 5/1 14:52:02
     49ers are in Santa Clara, CA, not San Fran (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:28:50
     SoFi Stadium is in Inglewood, CA, not LA (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:28:21
     Jerry World is in Arlington, not Dallas (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:27:37
     What a stupid f*cking take. Overland Park is fifteen - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:23:56
          Most likely it would be at the Legends but paid for by the - KC rules MU - 5/1 14:47:01
          How can you be so dumb? Overland Park residents are *not* - zounami MU - 5/1 14:31:14
               Kansas City is a metro as well as a pair of cities you tool. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:42:00
               If they're leaching off of KC, as you accused them of, they - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:32:29
                    Once again you show your ignorance. They let MO pay for - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:47:09
                         That's not the point zounami is making - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:49:06
                    I think he meant they are taking residents, businesses, etc. - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:33:47
                         correct... kmawv8 needs to work on his reading comprehension - zounami MU - 5/1 14:36:36
                    I meant they're siphoning away KC's companies & tax base (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:33:25
                         "leaches off AND syphons away" - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:35:05
                              first they leech, then they siphon... like with the Chiefs (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:36:04
                                   Again, use words that mean what you're trying to say. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:37:09
                                        Use context clues to overcome your lack of "he probably - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:38:53
                                             No, he's trolling and one of his points was wrong. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:43:40
                                                  he gets it, you don't... and now you're tripling down (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:47:07
                                                       you are trolling. it is the entire point of your post(nm) - tman MU - 5/1 14:56:20
                                                  He may be trolling but somehow I understood. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:46:59
                                        you're doubling down on your failed comprehension, I see (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:38:52
          That isn't a good thing (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 5/1 14:25:22
               correct (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:31:22
               Why? Who GAF which side of an imaginary line you build - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:28:01
                    you are literally a Kansan, correct? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:46:11
                    Where the revenue goes, matters. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:30:28
                         The stadiums are more about PR than money. Most of the - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:52:30
                         correct... DHighlander is a fvcking moron (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:31:40
     could end up like stl where the actual city is a hellhole - lqf2b8 MU - 5/1 14:20:33
     RE: If the Chiefs moved to Overland Park, KS... wouldn't that - cooter MU - 5/1 14:12:00
          wow, what a dumb take... you think the few Overland Parkers - zounami MU - 5/1 14:26:53
               It's a point of civic pride. It isn't a major economic - Rabbit Test MU - 5/1 15:02:21
               You sound pretty clueless of the KC metro (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:38:46
                    "KC metro" is arbitrary... Overland Park is a different city - zounami MU - 5/1 14:39:52
                         You're really dumb. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:46:09
                              resorting to ad homs because you've lost the argument (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:47:55
                                   No, I'm calling you dumb because you're acting dumb. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:52:58
                                        see, you're proving my point (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 15:00:47
               The main resource the Chiefs provide for KC is PR. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:31:33
     the real kansas citians that voted against the measure?(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/1 14:11:15
          yes, they don't want to be extorted by a greedy billionaire - zounami MU - 5/1 14:21:49
               both sides are looking out for their own interests. makes - TigerA MU - 5/1 14:22:49
               ...there's nothing wrong with Arrowhead, at all (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:22:17
                    When is the last time you stepped foot in Arrowhead? - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:39:49
                         he doesn't live anywhere close. he has envy of KC(nm) - tman MU - 5/1 14:53:52
     As opposed to say, San Antonio? I could still make a game - Diamond Dave MU - 5/1 14:10:02
          but you *would* be losing the team to another city/state... - zounami MU - 5/1 14:21:02
               So the Giants and Jets are not New York teams? - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:24:40
                    Is his premise dumb or is that just a side effect of Zou - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/1 14:25:29
                         regardless of the cause, his premise is dumb. - kmawv8 KC - 5/1 14:27:09
     The loss of revenue from not having both teams in kc would - tigerNkc KC - 5/1 14:09:56
          so, "yes"... the Chiefs would hurt KC by moving to another - zounami MU - 5/1 14:20:18
          Has there ever been figures made publicly available - Joeboo MU - 5/1 14:13:13
               good question (nm) - zounami MU - 5/1 14:19:09
     No, no, yes, because.(nm) - tgr MU - 5/1 14:09:37




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