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First of all, that doesn't come to a different conclusion...

Posted on: April 7, 2024 at 10:51:33 CT

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"While it is true that certain morphological changes that occur during puberty may be irreversible, trans individuals on gender affirming hormone therapy clearly do not retain the same physiologic parameters as their pre-transition counterparts. It is unclear to what extent, or for how long, any hormone mediated advantages may persist once a trans individual begins regular gender affirming hormone therapy."

All that's saying is *some* of the advantages could be mitigated, but to what extent is unknown.

I'm sure that's true, but it doesn't dispute anything from the study I linked to, or anything I've asserted. In fact, it affirms the fact that some advantages cannot be reversed.

Second, terms like "gender affirming" hormone therapy... that's non-neutral language that's largely discrediting. The article feels like it was written by a leftwing activist.

Third, "Frontiers in Sports and Active Living"... not exactly a respected publication. Looks like it's been around for all of 5 years, and the contributor for this "study" is one guy from the "Department of Exercise Sciences and Recreation at Lehman College" lol

Nice try, though.

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Dawn Staley supports biological men playing women’s bball - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 11:10:15

why are no biological *women* competing in *mens* sports?... - zounami MU - 4/7 08:30:40

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I know you're being sarcastic, but I'd actually *love it* if - zounami MU - 4/7 08:41:32

I would rather see a team of trannies cost her a NC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 08:54:47

whoever does it will be celebrated by few, and vilified by - zounami MU - 4/7 09:29:12

look at her roster... some of those players probably have a - zounami MU - 4/7 08:24:09

You seem easily upset by people who disagree with you(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/7 06:00:08

The irony... he doesn't seem upset, but you definitely do. (nm) - zounami MU - 4/7 10:55:53

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huh? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 06:13:43

Why do you care what Dawn Staley thinks? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/7 15:37:09

I rarely agree with haeffb, but I respect that he engages - zounami MU - 4/7 08:20:49

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exactly (nm) - zounami MU - 4/7 08:24:58

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stuff like this is why we can’t have productive discourse - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 14:41:13

bingo... they're children, can't argue on the merits (nm) - zounami MU - 4/7 08:18:16

What are the merits? (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/7 09:14:40

btw, can you answer this question... - zounami MU - 4/7 09:23:31

men have physical advantages that women cannot compete with - zounami MU - 4/7 09:21:02

Do transgender women who have undergone - haeffb MU - 4/7 09:26:08

you tell us - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 09:36:40

I specifically claimed to not be well-informed - haeffb MU - 4/7 09:42:00

I agree you're uninformed on this. Anyone who thinks - zounami MU - 4/7 10:03:21

Yes, unless hormone therapy started well before puberty... - zounami MU - 4/7 09:34:56

Do you have a source for this assertion? (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/7 09:38:12

now, do *you* have any evidence that the advantages - zounami MU - 4/7 09:51:33

I haven’t made any assertions. - haeffb MU - 4/7 10:34:55

First of all, that doesn't come to a different conclusion... - zounami MU - 4/7 10:51:33

he has a couple of inconclusive studies he linked below - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 10:34:17

I don’t know how many times - haeffb MU - 4/7 12:35:10

I didn’t say you had an opinion - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 13:04:07

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assuming all trannies have had 12+ months of - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 13:26:17

Part of the rules for allowing transgender competition - haeffb MU - 4/7 13:31:49

well, that’s at least a (very small) step in the right - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 13:50:37

Oh! You think… - haeffb MU - 4/7 14:30:34

so you didn’t read the OP, nor listen to Staley’s comments? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 15:28:32

Yeah, you may not understand the issue at all. - haeffb MU - 4/7 15:52:31

I’ve understood the issue the entire time - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 16:27:16

even the activist "researchers" acknowledge that some of the - zounami MU - 4/7 12:05:17

good find - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 12:22:31

yes, from peer reviewed medical journals... - zounami MU - 4/7 09:49:17

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again, where did I "care" if someone disagreed with me? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 06:47:54

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They should just do coed teams(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/6 16:25:17

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Dudes are not chicks - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/6 18:04:43

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so it’s not clownish to allow biological males to play - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 15:27:13

it literally impacts her directly and not you in anyway - TigerA MU - 4/6 15:33:54

“worrying” about it? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 15:41:45

Don’t let your daughters compete against biological males - haeffb MU - 4/6 16:31:29

yeah, except for that whole thing about - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 16:42:02

Didn’t the guy rightfully earn her place? - haeffb MU - 4/6 17:01:07

well, for one - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 17:12:33

Your position is that transgender persons - haeffb MU - 4/6 17:55:24

let me ask you this, my friend - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 18:35:18

If they are a Messiah or superhero, then - haeffb MU - 4/6 18:42:19

just to make sure I’m understanding you correctly - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 19:20:42

Of course. - haeffb MU - 4/6 20:06:40

let me be more specific - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 20:14:31

Do they have reason to believe they are a jellyfish? - haeffb MU - 4/6 20:56:26

do men that think they’re women have reason to believe such? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 21:00:12

Perhaps they do. - haeffb MU - 4/7 04:57:04

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you keep saying I (and others) refuse to do “research” - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 07:58:18

Oh, good god. - haeffb MU - 4/7 08:25:45

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I’ve done enough research - haeffb MU - 4/7 09:36:38

the research out there is worthless and irrelevant at worst - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/7 10:18:46

actually, there are pretty conclusive findings in the - zounami MU - 4/7 12:06:09

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a women’s coach saying she supports men playing her sport - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/6 11:42:40

Saying the opposite would be controversial. * - Sigma MU - 4/6 11:45:53

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RE: Dawn Staley supports biological men playing women’s bball - CPA MU - 4/6 11:34:24

RE: Dawn Staley supports biological men playing women’s bball - bstiger MU - 4/6 11:34:04

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