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what is "nature"?
Posted on: February 28, 2024 at 11:12:07 CT
Fire Marshall Bill
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and why don't all living things get the same rights/protections?
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For the fans if the Bee
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/28 10:22:56
Do you think she understood what she said
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Sal
CMSU
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2/28 10:33:14
There are a lot of people who don't understand where rights
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 10:37:14
where do they come from?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 10:44:33
God, God's Nature, or Nature, depending upon your
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90Tiger
STL
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2/28 11:48:31
I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I'm going to let
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 10:46:31
so you believe they come from God?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 10:47:50
For me, yes. If you were to be specific, "our Creator"(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 10:48:58
I've often wondered what created our Creator.(nm)
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Toger
STL
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2/28 10:55:14
Dave
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/28 11:01:06
thanks, now this
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 10:53:53
Nature (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/28 11:10:45
what is "nature"?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:12:07
mankind had discovered many profound things prior to the
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 11:31:47
how are rights “discovered” when they are so subjective?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:38:24
rights are not subjective (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/28 11:51:11
in theory, you’re correct
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 12:01:35
that’s not in theory (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/28 12:19:11
LOL
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 12:35:20
natural law is objective
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pickle
MU
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2/28 12:43:31
you’d be correct
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 12:51:05
i am correct (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/28 12:59:13
that's like arguing that because some people think the
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90Tiger
STL
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2/28 12:05:41
Because humans universally agree that the have the right
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 11:40:15
sure, but again
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:46:44
no it doesn't(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 11:52:44
so everyone views “harm” the same way?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:56:05
I think you're confused, partly my fault.
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 12:02:16
that makes more sense, thanks(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 12:11:42
bazinga (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/28 12:06:06
because they are unique to our species
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pickle
MU
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2/28 11:25:38
does a mentally handicapped person that lacks the ability to
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:35:33
deserve and entitled are the wrong way to frame it
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pickle
MU
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2/28 11:50:27
and why humans, again?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:56:45
because we alone have the inherent ability and trait
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pickle
MU
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2/28 12:31:37
are you doing a bit?(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 11:37:28
nope, just trying to figure out where the line is
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 11:47:48
Negative v. Positive Rights:
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90Tiger
STL
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2/28 11:55:27
thank you(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/28 12:05:30
rights are negative, not positive (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/28 11:52:10
they aren't
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90Tiger
STL
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2/28 11:51:22
Unfortunately you are. Tigerboard is too.(nm)
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Toger
STL
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2/28 11:18:57
But, was it written down?(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/28 10:31:13