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"believe" is an odd word. I "know" that borders and immigra

Posted on: February 22, 2024 at 12:12:40 CT
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tion are not federally enumerated powers and were relegated to states.

Personally, I would advocate for state gvmts to secure borders with other countries but in a manner most conducive with free movement other than very specific conditions, threats.

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Immigration and border control are not in the constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 10:01:29
     Atty pickle---you are a genius but..... - mu7176grad MU - 2/22 12:08:37
          naturalization is not immigration - pickle MU - 2/22 12:14:06
               RE: naturalization is not immigration - Gyro MU - 2/22 12:23:32
     Fine example of what we are dealing with.... - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/22 10:52:56
     defending the border is the major purpose of a govt. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 10:41:17
          on what do you base this assertion, as it applies to the US? - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 11:55:43
               his feelings (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:17:12
          have you ever read the Constitution? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 10:57:42
               Have you ever done anything to help society? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 11:11:34
                    he helps this board(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:56:39
                    answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 11:12:26
                         answer mine. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 11:15:47
                              no, i don’t know that you’ve read it - pickle MU - 2/22 11:26:07
                                   You are the epitome of dbaggery. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 11:47:01
                                        you project a lot - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:18:19
                                        RE: You are the epitome of dbaggery. - pickle MU - 2/22 12:06:16
                                        dude chill, this is a message board(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:00:04
                                        you sound dumb and emotional (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 11:56:24
                                             And wishing all govt vamish is rational? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 12:31:18
                                                  nobody here is pouting other than you, and you're doing - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:36:32
     Law of Nations includes border control - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 10:35:13
          RE: Law of Nations includes border control - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 11:56:48
               see below(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 15:16:20
          irrelevant. it is not in the constitution - pickle MU - 2/22 10:58:25
               article 1 section 8 - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 15:15:56
                    no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 16:10:32
                    pic is FAR too stupid and brainwashed to discuss anything.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/22 15:54:14
     The Constitution is not a suicide pact - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/22 10:21:20
     Did slaves migrate? - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:14:37
          might want to reread through that link - pickle MU - 2/22 10:23:47
               Do slaves Migrate? - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:28:13
                    migration =/= immigration - pickle MU - 2/22 10:59:47
                         Migrants immigrate - Spanky KU - 2/22 11:06:53
                              you can migrate from california to new york - pickle MU - 2/22 11:09:56
                                   As you ignore this (every time).. why? - Spanky KU - 2/22 11:26:56
          RE: Did slaves migrate? - BH O'bonga MU - 2/22 10:19:36
     Invasion is in the constitution, so border - tman MU - 2/22 10:10:00
          That would be redefining that word. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/22 10:14:11
               No.. it wouldn't - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:15:50
                    Even that opinion piece talks about it being an - ummmm MU - 2/22 10:38:12
                         why wouldn't an "external group" describe immigrants? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:43:12
                              Because they're not a group, even if you want to - ummmm MU - 2/22 10:43:52
                                   I reject your argument entirely. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/22 11:13:59
                                        like people on planes, trains, etc? they're a "group" with - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 11:58:04
                                        you aren’t a rational person - pickle MU - 2/22 11:19:08
                                   They are a group - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:46:20
                                   what is a "group"?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:45:40
                                        A collection of individuals that bound together to act as - ummmm MU - 2/22 10:52:15
                                             are they not acting as "one" crossing the border illegally? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:53:50
                                                  no, and they are not crossing illegally (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 11:00:49
                                                       according to natural law or U.S. law?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:01:40
                                                            US law, i.e. the Constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 11:02:48
                                                                 does the constitution say anything about speed limits? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:09:52
                                                                      why did you drop the argument here and change tack? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 11:58:46
                                                                      please see the tenth amendment (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 11:10:30
                                                                           I know what the 10th Amendment is, thanks(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:12:27
                                                                                i don’t believe you - pickle MU - 2/22 11:13:59
                                                                                     is there anything regarding speed limits in the FL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:26:51
                                                                                          i don’t know. a state constitution isn’t the topic - pickle MU - 2/22 11:27:52
                                                                                               no, it's not but you seem to operate under the idea - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:28:34
                                                                                                    that’s right. Article VI - pickle MU - 2/22 11:32:07
                                                                                                         read about implied powers please(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:35:25
                                                                                                              There are no implied powers for the federal govt - ummmm MU - 2/22 12:03:22
                                                                                                                   what about the elastic clause?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:09:18
                                                                                                                        dude: - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:39:29
                                                                                                                        Read it and see if you can identify two key words (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:20:02
                                                                                                              lol, oh, here we go - always the fallback to some entity's - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:00:15
                                                                                                                   do you believe in open borders? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:05:20
                                                                                                                        "believe" is an odd word. I "know" that borders and immigra - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:12:40
                                                                                                                             I'd be good with that, as the burden mostly falls on the - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:16:29
                                                                                                              no. there are no inherent powers - pickle MU - 2/22 11:38:42
                                                                                                                   correct, but it is an implied power - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:41:13
                                                                                                                        sorry, but you are wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 11:42:04
                                                                                                                             RE: sorry, but you are wrong (nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:43:27
                                                                                                                                  i’m not reading that (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:18:09
                                                                                                                                       Foreign Commerce Clause(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:21:18
                                                                                                                                            why do you keep trying to change the subject? - pickle MU - 2/22 12:26:15
                                                                                                                                                 it gives Congress the power to regulate immigration - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:31:24
                                                                                                                                                      what? no it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:45:42
                                                                                                                                  "the court" also decided the ACA is a tax and is constitutio - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:01:09
                                                  No, they're not acting as one when they do that. - ummmm MU - 2/22 10:56:07
                                                       what if I decided to carpool with 20 other people - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:02:12
                                                            That is closer to a group. Is that group of 20 people going - ummmm MU - 2/22 11:06:17
                                                                 I think that's where the fork in the road lies for a lot of - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:09:01
                                                                      Maybe so in the context of determining if you do or do not - ummmm MU - 2/22 12:05:18
                                                                      In general, once these people cross the border - meatiger MU - 2/22 11:11:01
                    yes, it would. immigration =/= invasion (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 10:21:46
                         You is dumb also - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:32:28
                    yes it would - ashtray UF - 2/22 10:20:53
                         Oh Dear God(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 10:36:51
                              he’s right. that’s not a controversial statement - pickle MU - 2/22 11:01:57
                                   he's not right - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 11:10:56
                                        he is right - pickle MU - 2/22 11:26:41
                         You don't too goodly read: - Spanky KU - 2/22 10:31:48
                              your opinion piece is wrong - ashtray UF - 2/22 11:02:04
                                   TPP says it is an invasion also - Spanky KU - 2/22 11:55:11
                                        you always resort to Appeal to (non) Authority fallacies, - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:10:35
                                             No.. I resort to facts(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/22 12:13:01
                                                  that wasn't a "fact", it was a rendered opinion (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:13:26
                                                       That uses actual facts - Spanky KU - 2/22 12:23:05
                                                            lol, so my opinion, if based on facts, is now fact. You're - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:30:24
                                                                 Nope. Not what I said (nm) - Spanky KU - 2/22 13:07:09
                                                            but you're known for being dumb - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:28:21
                                        RE: TPP says it is an invasion also - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/22 12:00:26
                                             a$$hat used TPP to back his claim it was not an invasion - Spanky KU - 2/22 12:12:16
                                   No.. your opinion piece is wrong - Spanky KU - 2/22 11:40:10
     the Constitution is only important when it comes to - ashtray UF - 2/22 10:07:44
     The Constitution was written by a group of people who formed - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/22 10:06:24




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