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Immigration and border control are not in the constitution (nm)
Posted on: February 22, 2024 at 10:01:29 CT
pickle
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Immigration and border control are not in the constitution (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:01:29
Atty pickle---you are a genius but.....
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mu7176grad
MU
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2/22 12:08:37
naturalization is not immigration
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:14:06
RE: naturalization is not immigration
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Gyro
MU
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2/22 12:23:32
Fine example of what we are dealing with....
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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2/22 10:52:56
defending the border is the major purpose of a govt.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 10:41:17
on what do you base this assertion, as it applies to the US?
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 11:55:43
his feelings (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:17:12
have you ever read the Constitution? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:57:42
Have you ever done anything to help society?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 11:11:34
he helps this board(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:56:39
answer the question (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:12:26
answer mine.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 11:15:47
no, i don’t know that you’ve read it
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:26:07
You are the epitome of dbaggery.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 11:47:01
you project a lot
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:18:19
RE: You are the epitome of dbaggery.
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:06:16
dude chill, this is a message board(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:00:04
you sound dumb and emotional (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 11:56:24
And wishing all govt vamish is rational?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 12:31:18
nobody here is pouting other than you, and you're doing
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:36:32
Law of Nations includes border control
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/22 10:35:13
RE: Law of Nations includes border control
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 11:56:48
see below(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/22 15:16:20
irrelevant. it is not in the constitution
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:58:25
article 1 section 8
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/22 15:15:56
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 16:10:32
pic is FAR too stupid and brainwashed to discuss anything.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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2/22 15:54:14
The Constitution is not a suicide pact
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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2/22 10:21:20
Did slaves migrate?
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:14:37
might want to reread through that link
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:23:47
Do slaves Migrate?
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:28:13
migration =/= immigration
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:59:47
Migrants immigrate
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 11:06:53
you can migrate from california to new york
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:09:56
As you ignore this (every time).. why?
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 11:26:56
RE: Did slaves migrate?
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BH O'bonga
MU
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2/22 10:19:36
Invasion is in the constitution, so border
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tman
MU
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2/22 10:10:00
That would be redefining that word. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 10:14:11
No.. it wouldn't
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:15:50
Even that opinion piece talks about it being an
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 10:38:12
why wouldn't an "external group" describe immigrants?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 10:43:12
Because they're not a group, even if you want to
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 10:43:52
I reject your argument entirely.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/22 11:13:59
like people on planes, trains, etc? they're a "group" with
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 11:58:04
you aren’t a rational person
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:19:08
They are a group
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:46:20
what is a "group"?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 10:45:40
A collection of individuals that bound together to act as
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 10:52:15
are they not acting as "one" crossing the border illegally?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 10:53:50
no, and they are not crossing illegally (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:00:49
according to natural law or U.S. law?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:01:40
US law, i.e. the Constitution (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:02:48
does the constitution say anything about speed limits?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:09:52
why did you drop the argument here and change tack? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 11:58:46
please see the tenth amendment (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:10:30
I know what the 10th Amendment is, thanks(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:12:27
i don’t believe you
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:13:59
is there anything regarding speed limits in the FL
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:26:51
i don’t know. a state constitution isn’t the topic
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:27:52
no, it's not but you seem to operate under the idea
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:28:34
that’s right. Article VI
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:32:07
read about implied powers please(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:35:25
There are no implied powers for the federal govt
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 12:03:22
what about the elastic clause?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:09:18
dude:
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:39:29
Read it and see if you can identify two key words (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:20:02
lol, oh, here we go - always the fallback to some entity's
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:00:15
do you believe in open borders?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:05:20
"believe" is an odd word. I "know" that borders and immigra
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:12:40
I'd be good with that, as the burden mostly falls on the
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:16:29
no. there are no inherent powers
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:38:42
correct, but it is an implied power
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:41:13
sorry, but you are wrong (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:42:04
RE: sorry, but you are wrong (nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:43:27
i’m not reading that (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:18:09
Foreign Commerce Clause(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:21:18
why do you keep trying to change the subject?
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:26:15
it gives Congress the power to regulate immigration
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:31:24
what? no it doesn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:45:42
"the court" also decided the ACA is a tax and is constitutio
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:01:09
No, they're not acting as one when they do that.
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 10:56:07
what if I decided to carpool with 20 other people
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:02:12
That is closer to a group. Is that group of 20 people going
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 11:06:17
I think that's where the fork in the road lies for a lot of
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:09:01
Maybe so in the context of determining if you do or do not
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 12:05:18
In general, once these people cross the border
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meatiger
MU
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2/22 11:11:01
yes, it would. immigration =/= invasion (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 10:21:46
You is dumb also
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:32:28
yes it would
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 10:20:53
Oh Dear God(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 10:36:51
he’s right. that’s not a controversial statement
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:01:57
he's not right
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 11:10:56
he is right
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pickle
MU
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2/22 11:26:41
You don't too goodly read:
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 10:31:48
your opinion piece is wrong
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 11:02:04
TPP says it is an invasion also
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 11:55:11
you always resort to Appeal to (non) Authority fallacies,
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:10:35
No.. I resort to facts(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 12:13:01
that wasn't a "fact", it was a rendered opinion (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:13:26
That uses actual facts
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 12:23:05
lol, so my opinion, if based on facts, is now fact. You're
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:30:24
Nope. Not what I said (nm)
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 13:07:09
but you're known for being dumb
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:28:21
RE: TPP says it is an invasion also
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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2/22 12:00:26
a$$hat used TPP to back his claim it was not an invasion
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 12:12:16
No.. your opinion piece is wrong
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Spanky
KU
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2/22 11:40:10
the Constitution is only important when it comes to
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 10:07:44
The Constitution was written by a group of people who formed
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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2/22 10:06:24