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wrong. your example requires POSITIVE action

Posted on: November 30, 2023 at 09:22:06 CT
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while natural rights is NEGATIVE, which means no action is required. Yours uses force and his doesn’t
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I'm starting to believe in the whole "natural rights" - hokie VT - 11/30 07:37:56
     The US is / was based on natural rights you moran (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/30 10:31:27
          Key words "based on". It'd more accurate to have said - hokie VT - 11/30 11:36:31
               some did, some didn't. It's God's Nature or just Nature and - 90Tiger STL - 11/30 12:54:24
     troll (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 08:30:19
     Why do you keep claiming - meatiger MU - 11/30 07:54:14
          And while I don't disagree, I'll again ask the question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:08:36
               Natural law isn’t forced upon anyone. That is why - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 08:53:08
                    If someone believes the strong should rule - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:55:56
                         oh boy (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/30 10:31:57
                         oh, dear (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 09:11:12
                              It’s amazing people will argue against principles - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:26:54
                                   I am simply asking why you believe this moral code - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:27:57
                                        “Mind your own business” is not a positive action - pickle MU - 11/30 09:43:27
                                        It requires no one to do anything against others. Every - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:33:18
                         Because it is theft. If something was taken from them - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:09:16
                              They may not be that upset and may simply - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:10:51
                                   Perhaps you don’t grasp what force means. Doing nothing - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:15:30
                                        I am not arguing with you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:18:01
                                             logic and reason (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 09:20:53
                                             Of course it is the best one. It originates with God. - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:20:35
                                                  So imposing your moral code on others is fine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:21:44
                                                       Do nothing is not an imposition. How do you not grasp that?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:22:28
                                                            Willful ignorance and some trolling (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/30 09:38:58
                                                            In your view that is the case - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:24:41
                                                                 In your scenario, who is the one taking action?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:25:13
                                                                      Who takes action is your determinant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:26:58
                                                                           Who is taking action against another person?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:29:01
               incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 08:34:41
               You can live however you wish - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:10:44
                    You didn't answer my question. Again. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:12:48
                         So are you asking what you do with people who break - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 08:51:36
                              No, I am asking why he accuses others of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:54:33
                                   wrong. your example requires POSITIVE action - pickle MU - 11/30 09:22:06
                                   Natural Law isn’t inflicted. You can’t inflict something - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:10:48
                                        If someone believes the strong win - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:12:08
                                             Same as now. Theft is morally wrong. Those who violate - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:18:01
                                                  That has been called mob rule - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:18:55
                                                       lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 09:44:06
                                                       HOA rules are agreed upon at time of purchase. The contract - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:21:44
                                                            So agree with the majority who made the rules - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:23:01
                                                                 No. It is voluntary to join an HOA. You get all the HOA - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:24:42
                                                                      Yes. I have no say. Some majority made the rules - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:26:02
                                                                           no say? don't join. Do you have a choice to join - 90Tiger STL - 11/30 10:33:57
                                                                           false (nm) - pickle MU - 11/30 09:44:32
                                                                           Of course you do. You had your say at the time you chose to - TigerMatt STL - 11/30 09:28:11
          because he's a troll. Also, - SwampTiger MU - 11/30 07:57:35
               I guess I meant to say - meatiger MU - 11/30 07:58:53
                    You actually MEANT to say that? Why? Nm - hokie VT - 11/30 08:06:20
                         Why - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:08:13
                              So, you actually intended to say... to CLARIFY with - hokie VT - 11/30 08:27:30
          What methofs would those be? (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/30 07:56:21
               It has been discussed so many times on here(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/30 07:58:07
                    Apparently not very convincingly. (nm) - Outsider MU - 11/30 07:59:23
                         They "discuss" things on here by posting "LOL" or saying - hokie VT - 11/30 09:30:51
                         If you decide to not actually pay attention - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:00:36
                              I'm just asking you to explain your post... - Outsider MU - 11/30 08:04:40
                                   It is more about what is a crime than anything - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:07:23
                                        So in your version of Valhalla, someone considering - hokie VT - 11/30 08:13:30
                                             Why would he pay it back? Who or what is going to - Outsider MU - 11/30 08:19:31
                                             why should the government profit - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:15:02
                                                  And yes, if restitution is paid - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:16:40
                                                       You think that's a sufficient deterrent…? There is a - hokie VT - 11/30 08:25:00
                                                            I am not concerned about deterrent - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:42:06
                                                                 Wow, that sounds really simple. Do the people in the - hokie VT - 11/30 09:17:13
                                                                 So if your children need to get to school - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:45:44
                                                                      To some extent that is being done today already - meatiger MU - 11/30 08:57:25
                                                                           Yes, but you believe that should be up to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:59:08
                                                                                I think people should pay for their own security - meatiger MU - 11/30 09:02:25
                                                                                     Ok. Thanks for that. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:03:23
                                                                                          Should security be free? - meatiger MU - 11/30 09:05:16
                                                                                               No one is prohibiting anyone from taking - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 09:08:26
                                        And ive seen this many times and yet not once - Outsider MU - 11/30 08:09:53
               Don't hold your breath for a legitimate answer here. Nm - hokie VT - 11/30 07:57:26
     I believe in natural rights bestowed on man - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 07:48:01
          society = all voluntary interactions between individuals - pickle MU - 11/30 08:32:07
          How are they bestowed, if people don't know what - hokie VT - 11/30 08:04:47
               They named them and set up protections for them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:11:07
                    How do they know they correctly interpreted God's will? Nm - hokie VT - 11/30 08:28:57
                         They likely aren’t 100% sure - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:33:34
               Its been discussed more times than meat can - Outsider MU - 11/30 08:06:18
                    Except that imo Michigan is a sane and honest person. He - hokie VT - 11/30 08:08:52
                         Thank you hokie - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:34:26
          So what has been the traditional culture of USA - meatiger MU - 11/30 07:56:12
               Judeo Christian moral code - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/30 08:03:22




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