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I think I read something that used the analogy

Posted on: October 27, 2023 at 15:32:37 CT
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that to ask them* if they owned land would be as confusing as asking you if you owned your family?

They viewed themselves as a part of the land/environment, not separate from it.


*them = the native peoples I was reading/heard in a podcast about at the time that I'm too lazy to go back and look up.
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poll on Israel and housing - meatiger MU - 10/27 12:59:05
     c - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:03:59
          nice research - well done(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:47:54
               everything except the turks was from memory(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:49:52
                    well, I'm glad you added them cause I would have called you - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 15:38:23
     what about the 800,000 Jews forced from Arab lands? - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:56:55
          RE: what about the 800,000 Jews forced from Arab lands? - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:13:15
               most Palestinians left Israel on their own accord - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:18:52
     RE: poll on Israel and housing - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 13:49:58
     A - pickle MU - 10/27 13:41:55
          Ditto for Native Americans? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/27 13:52:03
               what is a native american? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 14:05:44
                    Merriam-Webster defines Native American as - JeffB MU - 10/27 14:07:46
                         Im told they crossed a land bridge from asia - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 14:14:48
                              Come up with your own word(s) for them then. - JeffB MU - 10/27 14:22:08
                                   the difference being that lessons were learned so not to - ashtray UF - 10/27 15:22:14
                                   it’s no one else’s fault that you don’t know - pickle MU - 10/27 14:29:23
                         is your name Merriam-Webster? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 14:09:42
                              I accept their definition. Is that something you feel like - JeffB MU - 10/27 14:12:24
                                   i didn’t read your post (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 14:13:26
               Native americans never owned land - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:53:31
                    American indians practiced agriculture - pickle MU - 10/27 14:06:55
                         but they left after that period prior to European - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:07:57
                              RE: but they left after that period prior to European - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:15:00
                                   their settlements. Cahokia was abandoned prior to 1500(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:16:25
                                        RE: their settlements. Cahokia was abandoned prior to 1500(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:48:46
                                             famine. disease. war.(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:53:31
                                                  Hard to maintain food supply from wild game for a city that - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/27 15:18:40
                              sort of - pickle MU - 10/27 14:11:16
                                   good point. Disease (from whom?) and famine caused - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:13:05
                                        never heard of them, not that i recall (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 14:27:51
                                             some weird looking mofos that the Cherokees rooted - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:53:40
                                                  probably aliens (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/27 15:25:23
                                                       **** yes(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/27 15:33:54
                                                  huh. that’s pretty cool (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 15:04:13
                                        Jacskon Whites?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/27 14:14:23
                                             further southeast(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:15:21
                    RE: Native americans never owned land - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:05:23
                         correct but ownership of it was not a concept (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 14:30:36
                         they were territorial but no concept of ownership - cnk ATL - 10/27 14:12:07
                              RE: they were territorial but no concept of ownership - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:25:02
                                   I think I read something that used the analogy - cnk ATL - 10/27 15:32:37
                                   [jefe from 3 amigos voice]Don't forget about de women![/Jefe - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:26:44
                         to follow the buffalo(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:07:15
                    so like...Bedouins?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:04:37
                    They roamed around on what they considered their land - JeffB MU - 10/27 13:56:51
                         RE: They roamed around on what they considered their land - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 14:02:12
                              Kind of an anarchy, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/27 14:05:00
                                   No. Cahokia was practically a city state - pickle MU - 10/27 14:09:18
                                        can't have human sacrifice without structures of power. - CulturedDan MU - 10/27 14:15:02
          I like your option - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:50:05
     give to whom? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 13:31:57
          The people/heirs from which - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:33:38
               the property was abandon when the Arabs started a war - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:40:46
                    RE: the property was abandon when the Arabs started a war - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 13:55:40
                    lol (nm) - pickle MU - 10/27 13:42:26
                         I thought you'd like that(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:58:30
                              yeah, it’s a patently ridiculous claim and argument - pickle MU - 10/27 14:29:58
                                   yeah, it is a shame what happened to the Ottoman Turks - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:41:59
     C.(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/27 13:30:46
     they have offered Gaza & the West Bank, but that isn't - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:27:58
          RE: they have offered Gaza & the West Bank, but that isn't - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:02:42
               "all investment has to go through the Israeli Government" - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 15:19:58
          That was not my question (nm) - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:34:02
               then no(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:38:40
          false (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/27 13:29:11
               Oslo Accords had a goal of self rule by Palestinians - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:37:30
                    Israel has continually stolen land in the west bank - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:43:41
     No, retake Gaza and make it again part of Israel....nm - tigertix MU - 10/27 13:11:06
          Its never been part of israel - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:13:52
     No - Spanky KU - 10/27 13:07:39
          The natives signed treaties relinquishing rights - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:14:39
               At gunpoint - Spanky KU - 10/27 13:43:45




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