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they were territorial but no concept of ownership

Posted on: October 27, 2023 at 14:12:07 CT

cnk ATL

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ownership as we use it implies rights to do as you please with the land. That would not be something they understood. It was their territory to live off of, but not to take over and control. At least, that's my understanding.

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poll on Israel and housing - meatiger MU - 10/27 12:59:05

c - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:03:59

nice research - well done(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:47:54

everything except the turks was from memory(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:49:52

well, I'm glad you added them cause I would have called you - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 15:38:23

what about the 800,000 Jews forced from Arab lands? - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:56:55

RE: what about the 800,000 Jews forced from Arab lands? - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:13:15

most Palestinians left Israel on their own accord - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:18:52

RE: poll on Israel and housing - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 13:49:58

A - pickle MU

- 10/27 13:41:55

Ditto for Native Americans? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 10/27 13:52:03

what is a native american? (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:05:44

Merriam-Webster defines Native American as - JeffB MU

- 10/27 14:07:46

Im told they crossed a land bridge from asia - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 14:14:48

Come up with your own word(s) for them then. - JeffB MU

- 10/27 14:22:08

the difference being that lessons were learned so not to - ashtray UF - 10/27 15:22:14

it’s no one else’s fault that you don’t know - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:29:23

is your name Merriam-Webster? (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:09:42

I accept their definition. Is that something you feel like - JeffB MU

- 10/27 14:12:24

i didn’t read your post (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:13:26

Native americans never owned land - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:53:31

American indians practiced agriculture - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:06:55

but they left after that period prior to European - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:07:57

RE: but they left after that period prior to European - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:15:00

their settlements. Cahokia was abandoned prior to 1500(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:16:25

RE: their settlements. Cahokia was abandoned prior to 1500(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:48:46

famine. disease. war.(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:53:31

Hard to maintain food supply from wild game for a city that - Tigrrrr! MU

- 10/27 15:18:40

sort of - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:11:16

good point. Disease (from whom?) and famine caused - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:13:05

never heard of them, not that i recall (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:27:51

some weird looking mofos that the Cherokees rooted - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:53:40

probably aliens (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/27 15:25:23

**** yes(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/27 15:33:54

huh. that’s pretty cool (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 15:04:13

Jacskon Whites?(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 10/27 14:14:23

further southeast(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:15:21

RE: Native americans never owned land - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:05:23

correct but ownership of it was not a concept (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:30:36

they were territorial but no concept of ownership - cnk ATL - 10/27 14:12:07

RE: they were territorial but no concept of ownership - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:25:02

I think I read something that used the analogy - cnk ATL - 10/27 15:32:37

[jefe from 3 amigos voice]Don't forget about de women![/Jefe - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:26:44

to follow the buffalo(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:07:15

so like...Bedouins?(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:04:37

They roamed around on what they considered their land - JeffB MU

- 10/27 13:56:51

RE: They roamed around on what they considered their land - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 14:02:12

Kind of an anarchy, eh? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 10/27 14:05:00

No. Cahokia was practically a city state - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:09:18

can't have human sacrifice without structures of power. - CulturedDan MU

- 10/27 14:15:02

I like your option - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:50:05

give to whom? (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 13:31:57

The people/heirs from which - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:33:38

the property was abandon when the Arabs started a war - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:40:46

RE: the property was abandon when the Arabs started a war - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 13:55:40

lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 10/27 13:42:26

I thought you'd like that(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:58:30

yeah, it’s a patently ridiculous claim and argument - pickle MU

- 10/27 14:29:58

yeah, it is a shame what happened to the Ottoman Turks - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 14:41:59

C.(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/27 13:30:46

they have offered Gaza & the West Bank, but that isn't - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:27:58

RE: they have offered Gaza & the West Bank, but that isn't - sarasotatiger MU - 10/27 14:02:42

"all investment has to go through the Israeli Government" - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 15:19:58

That was not my question (nm) - meatiger MU - 10/27 13:34:02

then no(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:38:40

false (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/27 13:29:11

Oslo Accords had a goal of self rule by Palestinians - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/27 13:37:30

Israel has continually stolen land in the west bank - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:43:41

No, retake Gaza and make it again part of Israel....nm - tigertix MU - 10/27 13:11:06

Its never been part of israel - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:13:52

No - Spanky KU - 10/27 13:07:39

The natives signed treaties relinquishing rights - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/27 13:14:39

At gunpoint - Spanky KU - 10/27 13:43:45