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Posted on: October 12, 2023 at 13:11:42 CT
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I wanted you to consider.

1. He did not tell them why they should buy a sword. He also didn't tell them why they needed money.

We could conclude two things:
a. Go fight and get ready to use money to survive
b. Don't know - perhaps something veiled

2. Answered below

3. He chastised Peter for using his sword
That would go against conclusion "a" above
It does not answer conclusion "b"

4. I wouldn't conclude that he wanted them to use violence, but If I did, that would contradict all of his teachings prior, plus, even Peter told suffering believers not to fight back against those who were trying to harm them - so, eventually, Peter got the point.

My conclusion: I don't know why he told them to buy swords. Taken in context of his other confusing statements "Watch out for yeast" "sell your possessions to enter heaven" - I can assume that he probably didn't literally want them to buy a sword in order to fight (because as the two examples above - one was a metaphor (yeast) the other was to illustrate that good works don't get you into heaven). It may have been a warning to be ready- **** is about to get real. In the end they weren't - they ran and fled, denied him, etc.
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Introduction to Natural Law - pickle MU - 10/12 10:43:03
     THE GRAND CUCUMBER HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/12 12:01:06
     so Natural Law DOES require responsible action - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 11:43:10
          No, that’s incorrect - pickle MU - 10/12 11:58:27
               again, I didn't say it REQUIRES action but there IS - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 12:00:02
                    no (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 12:07:04
          Natural law requires no action.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/12 11:54:13
               didn't say it does - a responsibility isn't a requirement - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 11:58:53
                    yes it is. You’re entirely wrong on this (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 12:07:41
                         "I MUST exemplify the tendency and MUST feel it subjectively - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 12:10:14
                              you are conflating things - pickle MU - 10/12 12:25:54
                                   It has always been my arguement that with rights come - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 12:46:32
                                        yes, and you’re wrong - pickle MU - 10/12 13:01:03
                              i have no idea what you’re trying to say - pickle MU - 10/12 12:12:18
                                   I didn't say it - Wild did, in your article - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/12 12:32:08
                                        no, you’re saying there is a responsibility - pickle MU - 10/12 13:00:19
     wrong board. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/12 10:55:10
          He knows it is the wrong board. He is a hypocrite (nm) - tman MU - 10/12 10:56:53
               He is too stupid to articulate what he believes to be the - hokie VT - 10/12 11:33:45
                    you don’t read my posts, remember? - pickle MU - 10/12 11:41:01
                         “engage?” So which school taught you that… - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:42:56
     Can we count on you providing this to us… - Outsider MU - 10/12 10:46:58
          only if people still don't understand it(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 10:49:18
               Oh people understand it, it’s that no one knows why - Outsider MU - 10/12 10:50:33
                    there are many, including yourself, who do not (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 10:57:01
                         Why don’t you explain it then instead of - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:02:20
                              I have, and for many times over the past 12 years or so (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 11:06:04
                                   If you’ve had to “try” and explain it for over 12 - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:20:47
                                        why is try in quotation marks? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 11:24:00
                                             Your words, not mine. We’ve gone over this before. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:25:47
                                                  Ah, good catch. Just re-read and you didn’t use the word - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:27:37
                                                       it wasn’t implied. this is an example of your dishonesty - pickle MU - 10/12 11:28:25
                                                            Ha! I admit I made a mistake and you call me dishonest… - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:31:20
                         You confuse misunderstanding with lack of acceptance - Mormad MU - 10/12 10:59:11
                              Unfortunately on this Board, it's mostly an understanding - ummmm MU - 10/12 11:10:45
                              I don’t (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 11:05:13
                    You thought a parable about being prepared for the return - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 10:54:38
                         And you thought it wasn’t so the same can be… - Outsider MU - 10/12 10:56:02
                              I understood the parable(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 10:58:08
                                   Did you? How do you know? (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:03:13
                                        I read the whole parable to understand the context. - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 11:28:43
                                             So are you saying that your interpretation of the - Outsider MU - 10/12 11:32:22
                                                  absolutely not. That's sort of a dumb conclusion - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 11:47:48
                                                       RE: absolutely not. That's sort of a dumb conclusion - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:03:09
                                                            remind me of your other examples(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:05:14
                                                                 RE: remind me of your other examples(nm) - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:13:26
                                                                      ask yourself - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:19:05
                                                                           And so you are trying to point out inconsistencies… - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:27:44
                                                                                no, you were. The New Testement is quite clear that - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:33:24
                                                                                     Jesus was not against money that is a myth… - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:39:10
                                                                                          RE: Jesus was not against money that is a myth… - sarasotatiger MU - 10/12 13:18:35
                                                                                               that's helpful, thanks(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 13:59:34
                                                                                          Did I say Jesus was against money?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:41:06
                                                                                               Are you avoiding the question? (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:43:54
                                                                                                    no. I'm just dumbfounded that you thought my point was - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:46:23
                                                                                                         Good support of your point Dan, pickles - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:52:34
                                                                                                              weird deflection. - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 12:53:47
                                                                                                                   I considered them and pointed out there are many - Outsider MU - 10/12 12:55:32
                                                                                                                        So here's my answer (brought about by the questions - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 13:11:42
                                                                                                                             So it’s left to interpretation, so anyone claiming… - Outsider MU - 10/12 13:16:38
                                                                                                                                  well, their opionion would be from a better standing - CulturedDan MU - 10/12 13:32:48
                                                                                                                                       Haha! Got it Dan. Hope you feel better. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/12 13:35:46




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