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There is a moral element of law in any civilized society

Posted on: August 28, 2023 at 14:47:16 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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To ignore that leads to the insanity we are discussing here. Our forefathers knew it well. It is why I could never be a libertarian. It ignores the very important moral component to any civilized society.
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It was global warming - Tigrrrr! MU - 8/28 13:55:31
     Government 101 - Eggs MU - 8/28 14:10:47
          In a nutshell - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:13:46
               sounds like something we should keep around (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:37:49
               4 - Wildcat KSU - 8/28 14:36:57
               Covid was a real threat to a small percentage of the - Eggs MU - 8/28 14:20:53
               I know you'll dismiss this without thought, but religions do - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:16:37
                    No true religion forces anyone to do anything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:18:37
                         First, what's a "true" religion? Second, government isn't f - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:22:13
                              Christian Universalism exists. (nm) - TigerMatt KC - 8/28 15:43:45
                              RE: First, what's a "true" religion? Second, government isn't f - scan MU - 8/28 14:25:48
                                   I'll add that GVMT is displacing religion as the object of - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:29:30
                                        you're 100% correct (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:40:10
                                             we've always aligned on the important stuff imo (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:42:15
                                   I don't disagree, and religions have done so for millenia; l - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:27:08
                              How many lost their jobs for not getting jabbed? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:23:12
                                   How many people were murdered, imprisoned, tortured for - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:25:05
                         Religions use the fear of satan and hell - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:19:54
                              How exactly does that address what I posted and what - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:20:55
               you guys are finally typing what pickle has posted for - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:15:55
                    I wasn't super aware of/into politics until March of 2020 - Eggs MU - 8/28 14:36:54
                         bravo, my man, bravo (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 15:02:27
                    I never posted it should not be a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:16:40
                         pickle posted more than one thought, 4Tigs, why be - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:17:38
                              Just pointing out one thing he has stated that demonstrates - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:19:42
                                   That doesn't demonstrate that to me at all, he has a valid - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:23:53
                                        It speaks for itself - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:28:43
                                             whatever you want to believe is your choice (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:30:21
                                                  You may happen to believe jacking off in public in front of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:32:10
                                                       why are you adding moral and perverse to the equation? - CulturedDan MU - 8/28 14:45:23
                                                            he may as well just say "I want all things I find dangerous - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:47:59
                                                                 you stated his position perfectly - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:51:38
                                                                 in so many words, that's what he says (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:49:30
                                                                 You and pickle don't think we should stop men from - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:49:30
                                                                      this is the kind of pathetic, poorly constructed Hail Mary I - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:51:00
                                                                           So what would you do mr. tough guy? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:52:04
                                                                                it's really easy - CulturedDan MU - 8/28 14:56:57
                                                                                     Now this part of the thread is very shackworthy(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/28 15:23:54
                                                                                     Does he think he (and the kids) are required to stay for - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:58:45
                                                                                And if I were a pu$$y like you're projecting to be, I'd scre - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:54:36
                                                                                     Did you squint when you typed that like Dirty Harry? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:55:50
                                                                                          are you laying down entirely without admitting you a) don't - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:57:37
                                                                                RE: So what would you do mr. tough guy? - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:53:07
                                                                                     So you would use force against someone here for what - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:54:12
                                                                                          I'd use whatever force required to cease the act, remove the - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:56:22
                                                                      Oh, I'd stop a man from masturbating in front of kids, you'd - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:50:00
                                                                           So what would you do? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:50:58
                                                                                I'd likely use whatever force necessary to stop him from - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:52:51
                                                                                yes, and it would be justified (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:51:46
                                                                                     Why would it be justified? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:53:14
                                                                                          infringe on what right? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:59:05
                                                                                               DEEZ NUTZ! - CulturedDan MU - 8/28 15:12:56
                                                                                          because I don't want him jerking off in front of my kids - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:58:31
                                                            There is a moral element of law in any civilized society - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:47:16
                                                                 morals are relative - CulturedDan MU - 8/28 14:52:44
                                                                 libertarianism is predicated on the most moral of all - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:49:32
                                                                 morality is subjective - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:49:05
                                                                      4Tigs is a card-carrying authorityphile (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:59:32
                                                            not even talking legality - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:46:25
                                                                 good point, thanks(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 8/28 14:49:37
                                                       nobody thinks jacking off in front of children is moral - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:43:21
                                                       false (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:41:51
                                                       pickle and I both think it is immoral and no civil society s - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:37:15
                                                            No one who believes such actions are immoral - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:40:40
                                                                 nobody, especially pickle, claimed anyone has a right to - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:44:30
                                                                 should government ban sex between parents - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:43:39
                                                                      he still doesn't understand positive and negative rights, - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:45:17
                                                                 because you don't understand rights or what a crime is - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:43:04
                                                                      100%. Such simple terms but he refuses to learn them, - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:46:15
                                                                           at least he has something he's good at (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:47:01
                                                       so we should now have 500 people in DC - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:35:47
                                                            morality police (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:37:37
                                   lol, oh my(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:20:46
                                        Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:22:09
                                             what exactly did he do to be sick and perverted? - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:25:01
                                                  he had a thought 4Tigs doesn't agree with (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:25:33
                                                       When you have an opportunity to speak out against - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:27:34
                                                            lol, he didn't virtue signal! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 15:00:14
                                                            so he didn't virtue signal when given the opportunity - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:44:47
                                                            When did he "support it" - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:28:20
                                                                 Saying they should be allowed to do that in front of kids - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:30:05
                                                                      he never said "allowed to do it". he said "not a crime". - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:31:42
                                                                           yep - meatiger MU - 8/28 14:33:35
                                                                           So you wish to compare jacking of in public in front of kids - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:33:20
                                                                                Many people think porn is morally reprehenisible, should it - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:39:50
                                                                                     how about eating ass? (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/28 14:47:27
                                                                                          never my thing, but I wouldn't call the cops on you like 4Ti - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 15:00:48
                                                                                     No - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:42:43
                                                                                          Should it be a crime for parents to have sex in front of - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:47:06
     Of course it was - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/28 14:06:31
     so it could not possibly be both? - JG MU - 8/28 13:59:26
          242,000 posts of pure bullsh1t. - Chievous'Bandaid MU - 8/28 14:19:42
          There is no evidence to suggest it had anything to do - Sal CMSU - 8/28 14:12:35
          in theory, yes, in reality, it wasn't (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:00:26
               LOL - JG MU - 8/28 14:00:58
                    RE: LOL - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:13:26
     One can be solved by massively increasing taxes and govt - DHighlander NWMSU - 8/28 13:58:28
          LOL simpleton - JG MU - 8/28 14:00:33
               MO GUBMINT PEASE! (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 8/28 14:05:31
               was it good for the environment for the area to burn - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:02:13
                    utility companies are kinda quasi government - JG MU - 8/28 14:03:46
                         all regulated by gvmt (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:11:23
                         All of it goes through govt at the fed and local level - Eggs MU - 8/28 14:06:27
          The "Conservative" on TB will endorse the expansion of - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:00:10
               could you link to where I have EVER done that? - JG MU - 8/28 14:02:15
                    who is referring to you? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:03:21
                         so which conservative where you lying about then? - JG MU - 8/28 14:04:53
                              i'm just forcing you to respond repeatedly to whatever - 90Tiger STL - 8/28 14:13:54




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