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That is an incorrect but plausible explanation for 2012-13

Posted on: February 18, 2022 at 15:12:01 CT
FIJItiger MU
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But my point is that people who watched 2011-12 and still came to a conclusion Nestor didn't have much impact on that season is a rather strange observation. In the actual moment of 2011-12 everyone involved or observing MU basketball knew that he was a big factor.

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What went wrong with Haith? Won 30+ games. Won - OGT MU - 2/18 12:47:33
     NCAA sanctions forced him to change his methods(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 14:19:10
          And aliens, that was a big factor too (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:26:23
               Tim Fuller is an alien?(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 14:34:40
                    Tim Fuller is a real person, and was associated with - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:36:31
                         Alden forcing him on Kim's staff guaranteed a collapse - alstl MU - 2/18 14:56:53
                              That is a response more inline with aliens, yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:08:37
                                   Cleveland State(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 15:32:22
                                        Has a very good HC (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 16:59:07
                                        Believe that is where Mike Wawrzyniak transferred - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 16:52:17
     He was not a Power 5 type of coach. Mid-major perfect - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/18 14:18:07
          Tulsa fans disagree (nm) - hou4mu MU - 2/18 15:47:29
     He replaced Nestor with Leitao, and didn't have the - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:35:19
          I’ll say this about Haith, with Nestor coaching, Suitcases’s - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/18 14:16:00
               I still thinks it's hilarious that people give Nestor so - tgr MU - 2/18 14:40:12
                    Kim English - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/18 20:10:31
                    Typical board stupidity - Jeff85 MU - 2/18 18:59:29
                    English has an agenda snd his comments do not - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:09:01
                         What's his agenda? He liked Nestor and spoke highly - tgr MU - 2/18 15:13:22
                              He loves Haith. Your second paragraph is 100% - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:16:57
                    I think it is more strange that people watched most games - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:57:54
                         Or we watched a senior-laden team that become much younger - tgr MU - 2/18 15:04:22
                              That is an incorrect but plausible explanation for 2012-13 - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:12:01
                                   This entire board discussed ad nauseam how Haith deferred - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:15:18
                         Why aren’t Nestor’s other years as a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 15:00:24
                              Can’t recruit. You can ask the same thing about Haith. - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:13:44
                                   Haith’s teams have generally been good offensively - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 17:00:45
                              He made one NCAA tourney as a head coach. - tgr MU - 2/18 15:10:30
                                   As a general rule, everywhere he went as an assistant, the - alwaysright MU - 2/18 16:41:37
                              I don't know, I only observed him in 2011-12. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:09:24
                                   Did you observe 2008-09? - hou4mu MU - 2/18 15:57:18
                                        I did, I've been watching MU closely for a long time - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 16:38:50
               Haith did an excellent job of getting that team to rally t - alwaysright MU - 2/18 14:26:07
                    You are always trying to give Nestor - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 14:32:33
                         He did the tactics. Haith deferred to him all the time. - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:08:10
                              It was Haith. Nestor and others advised but Haith called - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 16:58:41
                    Bowers would have been huge - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:29:06
                         English’s role on offense would not have changed. He - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:07:45
          Haith was the Warren Powers of hoops - McMuffin MU - 2/18 14:00:21
               Haith won 63% of his conf games at MU - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:04:08
                    Warren Powers won 56% of his games at MU - McMuffin MU - 2/18 14:50:17
                    Haith is at a Kim Anderson level at Tulsa this year - XRob MU - 2/18 14:46:25
     The Miami stuff got our fans down on him and he couldn't - StaleyTiger MU - 2/18 13:33:35
          Recruiting post from September 7, 2011 - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:39:04
     Nothing went wrong. He is a .593 coach.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 2/18 13:25:25
     You think Haith ever sent Suitcase a thank you note for - sprintcar STL - 2/18 13:24:51
          RE: You think Haith ever sent Suitcase a thank you note for - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:45:45
     He won 23 games the next season and there were 7 games - tgr MU - 2/18 13:11:39
          I don’t buy that Dixon was worth 7 wins. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:15:32
               Dixon and then Bowers getting injured were though - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:46:52
                    RE: Dixon and then Bowers getting injured were though - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:48:33
               He was a preseason all-american and given how close - tgr MU - 2/18 13:18:02
                    They would have been better. I just doubt 7 games. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:26:35
                         I think at full strength we win probably 27 or 28 games - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:52:10
                    No matter he was Mike's guy. It still points to - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/18 13:20:34
     Same that happened to Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:04:08
          a lot of coaches can coach good talent(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/18 13:06:51
               Bruce Weber at Illinois. - 68-69ron MU - 2/18 14:22:07
                    yes, he's a good example of that(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/18 14:27:53
               Haith and Cuonzo can do that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:14:37
                    Haith has shown that ability, I'm not sure where you have - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 13:21:48
                         He advanced in the tournament with his best roster. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:28:46
                              In fourteen years he has one more tourney win than Haith - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 13:51:09
                                   Right when given a good roster both can coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 14:18:38
                                   Haith is obviously a much better coach just watching us - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:55:29
     His success was with someone else’s seniors (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 2/18 12:48:54




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