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Posted on: February 18, 2022 at 13:39:04 CT
FIJItiger MU
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"Certainly almost all these top 100 kids we were in on are Fuller's recruits, but the reason everyone has dropped Mizzou from consideration is the situation of uncertainty without a public vote of confidence for Haith and the coaching staff. Labor day weekend was really the time frame this needed to be resolved and when it wasn't, these kids and their families had to start scheduling in home visits for next week without Mizzou on the list. Here is who we apparently lost out on. And yes, I'm 100% sure this info is accurate.

#6 Rodney Purvis, #7 Anthony Bennett, #11 Jarnell Stokes, #15 Danuel House, #47 Chicken Knowles, #59 Montay Brandon, #77 DeMarquise Johnson

We wouldn't have gotten all these kids, but there are two of them that were really in the bag for the most part, and two others that we had a great shot at. There was little doubt this was going to be a huge pull with all the scholarships we had to offer. At this point, it appears that it's up in flames and I'm told there is no getting back in."

Instead we got Ryan Rosburg, Stefan Jankovic, Negus Webster-Chan, Dominique Bull, and Tony Criswell (JUCO). That is a pretty big difference. That meant 2013-14 was right back to a rebuilding year (although one with 23 wins, seems like a long time ago such a season could be considered rebuilding at MU). Tiger basketball never recovered. Just like Alden's lack of spine caused MU bb to crater in 2004, in an understated way he did it again to an even more problematic degree in 2011. Then finished it off in 2014 with the hire of Kim Anderson.

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     NCAA sanctions forced him to change his methods(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 14:19:10
          And aliens, that was a big factor too (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:26:23
               Tim Fuller is an alien?(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 14:34:40
                    Tim Fuller is a real person, and was associated with - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:36:31
                         Alden forcing him on Kim's staff guaranteed a collapse - alstl MU - 2/18 14:56:53
                              That is a response more inline with aliens, yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:08:37
                                   Cleveland State(nm) - alstl MU - 2/18 15:32:22
                                        Has a very good HC (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 16:59:07
                                        Believe that is where Mike Wawrzyniak transferred - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 16:52:17
     He was not a Power 5 type of coach. Mid-major perfect - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/18 14:18:07
          Tulsa fans disagree (nm) - hou4mu MU - 2/18 15:47:29
     He replaced Nestor with Leitao, and didn't have the - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:35:19
          I’ll say this about Haith, with Nestor coaching, Suitcases’s - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/18 14:16:00
               I still thinks it's hilarious that people give Nestor so - tgr MU - 2/18 14:40:12
                    Kim English - Fred G. Sanford USA - 2/18 20:10:31
                    Typical board stupidity - Jeff85 MU - 2/18 18:59:29
                    English has an agenda snd his comments do not - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:09:01
                         What's his agenda? He liked Nestor and spoke highly - tgr MU - 2/18 15:13:22
                              He loves Haith. Your second paragraph is 100% - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:16:57
                    I think it is more strange that people watched most games - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:57:54
                         Or we watched a senior-laden team that become much younger - tgr MU - 2/18 15:04:22
                              That is an incorrect but plausible explanation for 2012-13 - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:12:01
                                   This entire board discussed ad nauseam how Haith deferred - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:15:18
                         Why aren’t Nestor’s other years as a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 15:00:24
                              Can’t recruit. You can ask the same thing about Haith. - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:13:44
                                   Haith’s teams have generally been good offensively - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 17:00:45
                              He made one NCAA tourney as a head coach. - tgr MU - 2/18 15:10:30
                                   As a general rule, everywhere he went as an assistant, the - alwaysright MU - 2/18 16:41:37
                              I don't know, I only observed him in 2011-12. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 15:09:24
                                   Did you observe 2008-09? - hou4mu MU - 2/18 15:57:18
                                        I did, I've been watching MU closely for a long time - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 16:38:50
               Haith did an excellent job of getting that team to rally t - alwaysright MU - 2/18 14:26:07
                    You are always trying to give Nestor - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 14:32:33
                         He did the tactics. Haith deferred to him all the time. - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:08:10
                              It was Haith. Nestor and others advised but Haith called - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 16:58:41
                    Bowers would have been huge - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:29:06
                         English’s role on offense would not have changed. He - alwaysright MU - 2/18 15:07:45
          Haith was the Warren Powers of hoops - McMuffin MU - 2/18 14:00:21
               Haith won 63% of his conf games at MU - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 14:04:08
                    Warren Powers won 56% of his games at MU - McMuffin MU - 2/18 14:50:17
                    Haith is at a Kim Anderson level at Tulsa this year - XRob MU - 2/18 14:46:25
     The Miami stuff got our fans down on him and he couldn't - StaleyTiger MU - 2/18 13:33:35
          Recruiting post from September 7, 2011 - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:39:04
     Nothing went wrong. He is a .593 coach.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 2/18 13:25:25
     You think Haith ever sent Suitcase a thank you note for - sprintcar STL - 2/18 13:24:51
          RE: You think Haith ever sent Suitcase a thank you note for - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:45:45
          I don’t buy that Dixon was worth 7 wins. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:15:32
               Dixon and then Bowers getting injured were though - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:46:52
                    RE: Dixon and then Bowers getting injured were though - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:48:33
               He was a preseason all-american and given how close - tgr MU - 2/18 13:18:02
                    They would have been better. I just doubt 7 games. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:26:35
                         I think at full strength we win probably 27 or 28 games - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:52:10
                    No matter he was Mike's guy. It still points to - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/18 13:20:34
     Same that happened to Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:04:08
          a lot of coaches can coach good talent(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/18 13:06:51
               Bruce Weber at Illinois. - 68-69ron MU - 2/18 14:22:07
                    yes, he's a good example of that(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/18 14:27:53
               Haith and Cuonzo can do that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:14:37
                    Haith has shown that ability, I'm not sure where you have - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 13:21:48
                         He advanced in the tournament with his best roster. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 13:28:46
                              In fourteen years he has one more tourney win than Haith - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/18 13:51:09
                                   Right when given a good roster both can coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/18 14:18:38
                                   Haith is obviously a much better coach just watching us - FIJItiger MU - 2/18 13:55:29
     His success was with someone else’s seniors (nm) - ZouMiz STL - 2/18 12:48:54




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