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I don't see how that supports your position. If anything
Posted on: January 31, 2022 at 17:50:05 CT
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it seems to contradict it.
It is apparently showing that the vaccines have a much lower efficacy in antibody production than recovering from the virus, also that the natural antibodies are more durable and long lasting.
" but certainly by two to three weeks after your first dose, nearly 100% of people have detectable antibodies. Obviously it goes up after your second dose, but it's detectable enough for us to consider it positive antibody by that early time period. Now in transplant patients, what we found is that only 17% have detectable antibody after dose one. Only 17%...."
"I will tell you though, anecdotally, half of medicine is done through science and half of medicine is done through, "Well, this is what happened to my last patient, so I'm going to change my practice entirely based on this anecdote."
"I'll tell you some other interesting things. In transplant patients who had COVID-19, in convalescent transplant patients, we do see an immune response that is actually relatively durable. So we published another paper a couple months ago, looking at people who are three to six months out from getting COVID who were transplant patients. And they actually had detectable antibody."
Edited by JeffB at 17:51:21 on 01/31/22
It is apparently showing that the vaccines have a much lower efficacy in antibody production than recovering from the virus, also that the natural antibodies are more durable and long lasting.
" but certainly by two to three weeks after your first dose, nearly 100% of people have detectable antibodies. Obviously it goes up after your second dose, but it's detectable enough for us to consider it positive antibody by that early time period. Now in transplant patients, what we found is that only 17% have detectable antibody after dose one. Only 17%...."
"I will tell you though, anecdotally, half of medicine is done through science and half of medicine is done through, "Well, this is what happened to my last patient, so I'm going to change my practice entirely based on this anecdote."
"I'll tell you some other interesting things. In transplant patients who had COVID-19, in convalescent transplant patients, we do see an immune response that is actually relatively durable. So we published another paper a couple months ago, looking at people who are three to six months out from getting COVID who were transplant patients. And they actually had detectable antibody."
Edited by JeffB at 17:51:21 on 01/31/22
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I don't see how that supports your position. If anything - JeffB MU - 1/31 17:50:05